The Nested Lock-Bar?

Lycosa

Lycosa

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Hi Gang- Do you see the single nested lock-bar, for folders, catching on?
I do. This just seems like a better way to use this kind of lock. I saw this lock first in Black Bear Knives but now, Dozier, Wells and Laconico are using it.
Thanks.
rolf
 
In my opinion this is a brilliant design slim and lightweight, a perfect package for an EDC. I digg!!

How about the durability, different from the traditional linerlocks?
 
Thanks, Ben.
I'll let the makers answer. Plus, the only data will be from the makers and customers who use it. I know that Mike, from BBK, had no complaints from customers with this lock.
I know Dozier uses a nice, thick lock bar in his Workhorse folder.
 
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It seems all the tension on the lockbar has transferred onto the screws so the lockbar itself actually not taking much of stress. No idea if that's good or bad.
 
I have no idea what that is... could someone show me a pic? I did a brief google search and really didn't see anything definitive...
 
I had a Microtech Socom Delta with one (I believe that was its locking mechanism)... great knife, but long since sold--could not warm up to the al scales. The nested lock-bar worked fine, seemed solid, no sticking, etc... but I never spine whacked it in any kind of tough way. Only a little on the palm of my hand with medium force--it held up just fine with no slippage.
 
Thanks for the link, Ben.
Thank you, Anthony. Aluminum is too cold for me.
I like the fact that G10 is on both handle slabs and the folder is a tad lighter too.
Mike, from, BBK, have a video where he standing on one of his folders.
I shud have my Dozier Workhorse tomorrow. I'll try to get a pic up.
rolf
 
Lycosa said:
Thanks for the link, Ben.
Thank you, Anthony. Aluminum is too cold for me.
I like the fact that G10 is on both handle slabs and the folder is a tad lighter too.
Mike, from, BBK, have a video where he standing on one of his folders.
I shud have my Dozier Workhorse tomorrow. I'll try to get a pic up.
rolf
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I'd like to see YOU standing on your Dozier WH! :D:D
Rolf, let us know how you like it and how's the action with out those liners.
 
Ben- That's the first thing I'll do, stand on my folder. Then, the rebar test.
I'll be back asap with a review.
pix, maybe. :D
rolf
 
If the scales are metal, then this can be "a" way to go, but otherwise the scales must accept the torqueing created.
Frank
 
I have done it several times but mostly, like Frank says, on metal handles like titanium or stainless. In these instances, the lock can be dovetailed into the handle and sit tightly with no screws at all. On a smaller knife, I feel this can be an elegant solution.

I have only done it 2 or 3 times on G10 or carbon fiber handles, but in these cases I extended the lock backwards and attached it with screws into a steel or titanium backspacer. I felt this gave me a stronger connection between lock bar and handle, allowing me to spread the forces of the lock, on 3 or even 4 screws instead of just 2. This linerless construction yielded a very light yet strong knife and I kinda liked it.

Personally I have not tried just attaching the lock with screws into the handle slab, but thats not saying that it won´t work.

Btw, the "nested lock" is described by Terzuola in his book "The tactical liner lock", only he calls it "the inlaid spring option".

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Thanks Frank, that means a lot coming from You:)

On the topic, the most important factor, when building a nested lock, is to avoid any play or give, between the blade lock face and the lock bar. This means getting a dead tight connection between the lock bar, handle side and pivot. Otherwise you are going to end up with a lock that sticks or fails to consistently engage.

I´m just getting started on a small batch of folders. This thread actually made me feel like making a G10/nested lock on one of them.

We will see about that.

Brian
 
I have been making this style lock for a while now and find them to be more than strong enough for what I need. For my style of lightweight knife, the nested liner works very well.

Here is a 4 3/4" handle on a knife with a 3 3/4" blade. The lock is strong and I have no problem shipping this out to my customer.

*a backspacer sits over the end of the bar adding strength. (I do go back and square up the edges of the slot)





 
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Thank you for chiming in, Walter, and thanks for the pix.
I cannot wait for my folder from you.
rolf
 
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