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Loose or tight can fail. These are not hard use knives. I'll remember to watch the picture taking..:)
 
BuckShack said:
If it's loose, it can fail. But if all you do is cut paper and take pictures of them, the lock should hold.
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I don't believe that is actually the case. From all the different posts I've seen on this model I have yet to see where anyone has had the lock fail. That's why I asked if this was really a safety issue.

Again, I'm not saying Buck shouldn't address this. I'm also not ignoring the fact that people tend to exaggerate and blow things out of proportion. The hardest part of a discussion is getting folks to actually discuss and not just make blanket statements with little or no factual information.
 
Badhammer said:
I don't believe that is actually the case. From all the different posts I've seen on this model I have yet to see where anyone has had the lock fail. That's why I asked if this was really a safety issue.

Again, I'm not saying Buck shouldn't address this. I'm also not ignoring the fact that people tend to exaggerate and blow things out of proportion. The hardest part of a discussion is getting folks to actually discuss and not just make blanket statements with little or no factual information.
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not a safety issue, just a major annoyance. talking the lock rock.
 
Buck places this knife in both Tactical and Every Day Carry categories on their website and they now sell them to Police and Firemen specifically. I expect these knives will find hard use. I expect they will be used in a stabbing motion and hit a hard surface at some point. I hope the lock holds. I hope it has been tested. I won't subject mine to the principals of physics to find out.

 
BuckShack said:
Buck places this knife in both Tactical and Every Day Carry categories on their website and they now sell them to Police and Firemen specifically.
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Firefighter/EMT here, and I wasn't aware of that Thin Red Line model. (looks nice)

I find a teeny-tiny bit of lock rock is inherent in most back locks and none of mine lock the blade up like a frame of liner lock (no up/down wiggle). I just tried to wiggle a few (gerber, western, byrd, spyderco) with back-locks and none of them locked up as solid "feeling" as the other lock designs. That said, the Spitfire had the most noticeable lock-rock of all that I wiggled.

I guess that I'd recommend that if you want a Spitfire, that you pick one up at a brick and mortar store so you can examine the lock-up of the knife your going to be buying personally.
 
roosterscrow said:
Firefighter/EMT here, and I wasn't aware of that Thin Red Line model. (looks nice)

I find a teeny-tiny bit of lock rock is inherent in most back locks and none of mine lock the blade up like a frame of liner lock (no up/down wiggle). I just tried to wiggle a few (gerber, western, byrd, spyderco) with back-locks and none of them locked up as solid "feeling" as the other lock designs. That said, the Spitfire had the most noticeable lock-rock of all that I wiggled.

I guess that I'd recommend that if you want a Spitfire, that you pick one up at a brick and mortar store so you can examine the lock-up of the knife your going to be buying personally.
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i have many brands and knives over decades of use backlocks and midlocks and tri-ads and power locks that lock up very tight with zero play....including bucks. i also have ones that have minor play. its hit and miss on tolerances.
 
I personally would like for Buck to take care of the play instead of just shooting them out the door. Stephen at SK I see is putting them in his Bone yard with a little discount . I think that is good way to handle it.
 
jbmonkey said:
^yep.

Makael is right though. for entry level its very high quality. under 30 bucks shipped to my door for a standard 420hc version american made. even with some lock rock. still a pretty darn good deal.
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Makael is right . Just about all Bucks are entry level. But they are still a Buck knife and why not try to keep the same level of quality in all .You can still get a 110 for 30 at WM . I have to say the 27. Knife i bought from them build quality is as good as gets with any 110 I have. So I don't think cost is in the picture. The little 284s that I have are solid as rock. But I can see everyone's point. The Spitfires are a pretty nice knife for a light weight blade and I have six now with none to very little so I know the play can be done right.
 
Xr6x said:
Makael is right . Just about all Bucks are entry level. But they are still a Buck knife and why not try to keep the same level of quality in all .You can still get a 110 for 30 at WM . I have to say the 27. Knife i bought from them build quality is as good as gets with any 110 I have. So I don't think cost is in the picture. The little 284s that I have are solid as rock. But I can see everyone's point. The Spitfires are a pretty nice knife for a light weight blade and I have six now with none to very little so I know the play can be done right.
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yeah we all want them lock rock and play free...even Makael.:) i think its reasonable to ask for that from buck. they do seem to care about their customers and we know they can do it, so maybe theyll read and work on it for us all.
 
jbmonkey said:
yeah we all want them lock rock and play free...even Makael.:) i think its reasonable to ask for that from buck. they do seem to care about their customers and we know they can do it, so maybe theyll read and work on it for us all.
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That's all we can hope for :) I know I rant sometimes to much,but I do care for Buck and I know most here do too :)
 
Xr6x said:
That's all we can hope for :) I know I rant sometimes to much,but I do care for Buck and I know most here do too :)
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you arent alone on that. i have my own moments.;) we do all like our bucks and the brand and products, but constructive criticism is a good thing and i would think buck would appreciate us nicely giving feedback.
 
Those of you that posted pictures of the ones you received, am I seeing things, or are those tips pretty rounded out of the box?

I've been tempted by the Spitfire a couple of times, but that recurve always turns me off.

The blades and the lockbar both look like they've been tumbled, and I bet that's where most of the lock rock issues are coming from. I'm betting it's removing just enough material on the locking surfaces on some of them to allow a bit of play in the mechanism.
 
They could be burning thru thousands of existing parts before retooling, who knows for sure. But I sure love that Micarta. I wish more had that type of material. The 110 with the roughed up Micarta would be cool as hell. Especially in blue jeans material.
 
StuntDouble said:
Those of you that posted pictures of the ones you received, am I seeing things, or are those tips pretty rounded out of the box?
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Maybe slightly? I think it's just the blade shape though. It's certainly not as sharp a point as, let's say, my PM2. Then again, it feels much less delicate.

It's more than pointy enough for any task I do day to day.


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Could the lock rock be due to design?
Long lock bar vs Short lock bar leverage difference?
None of my 110's have any blade movement when open.
 
afishhunter said:
Could the lock rock be due to design?
Long lock bar vs Short lock bar leverage difference?
None of my 110's have any blade movement when open.
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i have a couple 110s with slight rock. many more without it. dont know. good thought and question. we'd have to ask Mr. Hubbard to get a good answer.
 
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