The new finish

notajerryskid said:
emailed. Thank you Justin
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You're welcome. Ellie has an email or two from me about ideas that we will probably never see. Like a synthetic suede lined kydex option. SOoooooOOOoooo much better for a coated knife.

So it's worth emailing on something like an unfinished option that is actually probably easier for them to do rather than harder.
 
Silver Needle said:
Oh man.......... I trust Guy picked this finish for good reasons, but for some reason I thought it would have increased wear resistance. My well used GSO 5 still looks brand new aside from on kydex scratch despite my regular use. I don't need my knives to remain beautiful, but that's too bad they're so easily marked up.

Was all this in response for the want of sharper spines?

I know Guy wanted to be able to do finishing in house so maybe this is what needed to be done. Still... too bad.

EDIT: Justin's response is helpful, but I missed it before writing this.
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I agree that Justin's response has been the most thorough so far, but then again he's uber anal about fit / finish so I'd trust his knowledge more than what I conjure up in my microcosm of relatively dry air and no sea salt to corrode my 3V blades!
 
Casinostocks said:
I agree that Justin's response has been the most thorough so far, but then again he's uber anal about fit / finish so I'd trust his knowledge more than what I conjure up in my microcosm of relatively dry air and no sea salt to corrode my 3V blades!
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Justin definitely nailed the info in his response.

Some of the pics of irreversible tarnish/marking/staining/whatever were a surprise. I don't remember that coming up when Chiral and ni1s had they're test finish blades. I'm sure Guy tested the heck out of the finish before deciding on it. I'll just have to wait and see for myself.
 
I've posted this in another thread but regardless, here's a good look at the mar in the finish on my blade. If I had to guess, I'd say it was abrasion from grit when batoning through dirty wood:



I know I'm expressing and opinion here but I can't imagine being overly concerned about scuffs on the blade of a hard-use survival/field knife. The knife is a great tool and the beauty is in the design.
 
Swanson: did you try any metal polish on it or this is how it is just after a quick wash?
 
Casinostocks said:
Swanson: did you try any metal polish on it or this is how it is just after a quick wash?
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I'll be interested in the answer.

I guess I don't need my tools to look as beautiful and fabulous as I do, but the old finish holds up so well, it would almost seem like a step backwards if the new finish gets messed up so easily... and Guy doesn't do steps backwards!
 
Silver Needle said:
I'll be interested in the answer.

I guess I don't need my tools to look as beautiful and fabulous as I do, but the old finish holds up so well, it would almost seem like a step backwards if the new finish gets messed up so easily... and Guy doesn't do steps backwards!
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You forgot to mention your dynamic personality :D
 
rswanson, it looks like the finish is intact, but there is material smeared into it. Have you tried to remove it at all?
 
I gave it a hit with some 0000 steel wool and WD-40. Honestly, I didn't work at it for too long as the finish started to sand out some. I'll give it a shot with some Cape Cod polish and report back.
 
rswanson said:
I gave it a hit with some 0000 steel wool and WD-40. Honestly, I didn't work at it for too long as the finish started to sand out some. I'll give it a shot with some Cape Cod polish and report back.
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There are so many things that can work, like 99% isopropyl alcohol that are not abrasive. So hard to tell without seeing it in person. Like pitch or sap with dirt in it or something comes out better with isopropyl which is way better in 99%. It almost looks like it could be a stain.
 
My 5.1 "scratched" and my wife tarnished after using it on red meat. Both were removed with one or those Japanese rust erasers you can get on Amazon


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My post was not to grip about the new finish. I do not have safe queens and do not care about the marks. I just like the tumbled or wish they offered a Bare option. :)
 
personally, I like the looks of the Peened satin Finish it looks like a cerakote finish... Not sure if peened vs tumbled have had any extensive testing on Rust, and abrasion?
 
Just guessing and purely based on hunch, I think that the peened finish will hold up more gallantly against corrosion and with the new D3V heat treat, it will be making the corrosion trepidation low on the concern level for those folks who live in high humidity climates with salt in the air. Lorien who posts on the CPK subforum extensively uses NTM's (CPK) Light Chopper and in the BC area and has not mentioned corrosion at all! The LC's finish is more lightly peened as compared to the modern GSOs but it is already offered in D3V.
 
mlmcasual said:
personally, I like the looks of the Peened satin Finish it looks like a cerakote finish... Not sure if peened vs tumbled have had any extensive testing on Rust, and abrasion?
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I like the look of both finishes, but I was a little concerned at first when I heard they were going to the blasted (peened) finish. Only because the bead-blasted blades I've had from another maker were a bit more prone to surface rust than satin finished blades. But......

Then Guy posted the pictures of the 4.7 blanks that had been sitting out in the elements for months. It was very obvious that the blade with the new heat treat was much more resistant to rust than the previous heat treat. From what I can gather, this is more an attribute of the heat treat than it is of the finishing process -- Survive just happened to change both processes concurrently.
 
Long story short D3V leaves more of the chromium free. Not enough to make it stainless but a whole lot closer than the high temp HT. Peening helps closes the pores so less corrosion.
 
To me I dont like the tumbled look. Its almost looks like cheap metal. I liked the peened look. The scratches give it character.
 
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