The new Fusion

Cotherion said:
Yes but the tip area is still sharp (small) enough for it to penetrate deeper compared to a a hawk or axe with a less sharper angled profile. Even more so for the sharp end compared to the unsharpened end.

Assuming the weapons used to test this are roughly the same weight, the wood is the same and swung with the same force it should penetrate deeper.

However in chopping stuff then the curved blade is better due to the high chance of small contact area (hence cutting pressure) compared to the straight blade. However swung with the aim of embedding the tip (corner) than the VTAC should shine.

Khukri depends on the cutting action obtained more easier due to the sickle like shape. Like a samurai sword depends a lot on the friction of the sharp blade moving along the cut path to cut. Also the weight distribution of the khukri is more forward (due to shape) resulting in the something to me like a 'follow-through' force which is kinda nice as well as helping in the alignment of the blade to the direction of force being more in line.

...if anyone gets my meaning. Reading back I'm having trouble understanding myself cause i'm a bit long winded.
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That's just it. The curved edge is a better chopper BECAUSE it penetrates deeper. If you want a different way to think about it, think about a continuum spanning edges between a flat edge and a spontoon(which is actually much like your corner in question, only sharpened on both sides). Penetration decreases as that edge angle increases (from 90 degrees or less to 180 degrees) like this Spontoon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flat edge.
 
True the curved blade is the better chopper due to the deeper penetration. I was giving it much thought during dinner (yes i'm on the other side of the planet) and realized my comparison wasn't entirely fair. So here goes take 2.

Situation 1: Hawk/axe head pushed perpendicularly onto wood.
Assuming a curved blade is pushed with a set force (call it F) onto a piece of wood and the same was done with the VTAC you will see the curved blade penetrating deeper. This will be the same outcome especially when both have same blade sharpness.

Situation 2: Hawk/axe head pushed in at an angle (simulating a common impact of tomahawk onto object, like when you throw it and it sticks using the 'corner') onto wood.
This particular situation then the VTAC would penetrate deeper by virtue of lesser contact area (taking into account the unsharpened top side) compared to the curved blade.

Conclusion, the type of impact/load/force determines which will penetrate deeper. With the exception of the spike I think.

This is just my thoughts. Needs refining but still early days. Correct me if i'm not entirely right but don't be liek some who flame on others at the slightest opportunity.
 
Oh, yes, I understand your points. Maybe the flat blade has its own, more narrow, sweet spot in which it penetrates as well or better than a curved blade.
 
However if someone makes a curved blade but with a corner edge like the VTAC? Aaahh the endless possibilities.
 
It depends on the industry, the product, and the quality.
 
All manner of things. I'm sure half the tools I buy are made in China. A large amount of the production knives I purchase for the business are made in China.

I neither like or dislike them based on the location of manufacture. I don't get wrapped up in it.

Some of my favorite guns are made off shore. I regularly shoot Russian and Bulgarian ammunition. My boots are made in China. Yet I bought them at the Danner store in Portland.

It all depends. Some things made in China are well made. Some aren't. Some things made in America are well made, some aren't. My Toyota truck was made in America. My buddy has an American truck filled with Chinese and other foreign parts.

And?
 
I'm into the the construction industry and paper industry and often many times purchased construction equipment and paper manufacturing equipment including chemicals and parts and let me say that the manufacturing sector of China are very specification orientated. Meaning they produce as per the requirement of their customer to the CUSTOMER's own specification and charge accordingly albeit at a relatively lower price due to low workmanship cost.

What i'm trying to say it is the fault of the customers that specify and the fault of china for having no design codes or regulating body to ensure that a certain standard is kept even if insisted by the customer.
 
Back to the "new" Fusion.

Thanks for the heads up. I was going to buy it when it first came out but got turn off by the reports of the wood handle breaking. Will definitely pick one up as a back-up to the VTAC or to leave bouncing around the back of my Toyota pick-up truck that was made in America or the Ford Explorer with parts from all over the far-East and Mexico.
 
Robert that sheath is great! If I see it correctly, you just grab the handle and pull toward the spike end. I love mine with the FRN black handle. I paracord wrapped the handle cause I have big mitts, took the shock right out of strikes.
 
That is correct, Zoo. Thank you.
 
Great thread Robert.

I've just asked the question in the SOG forum re: can the handles be swapped over ?

Can you tell if it's possible to do ?.
 
I don't think so. I would recommend the synthetic handle.
 
Any reason why Robert ?, has it to do with the collar type peice below bolts (if that makes sense :)).

My predicament is they are hard to come by so to speak but i can get the wood version without too much hassle..........its just that handle that stops me purchasing.

Fingers crossed it can be retrofitted.............ho hum.
 
i think that if it is lighter than a vtac then it would make a good weapon.

i wont trust it as a tool.i like high carbon for hard use.i have to wonder if they want to cut corners with the steel are they going to cut corners elsewhere.

why didnt they use the synthetic handle in the first place and from looks only i am not confident about where the head meets the handle.

to me it is still to early for the verdict to be out yet.

as for the AT VTAC the verdict is out.........battle proven & tuff as hell,and while the SOG is 30-40 bucks opposed to the vtac being 130 bucks dont forget...you get what you pay for.i wonder if their is a reason why the sog is so cheap.

these are all guesses since i havnt held or used one.happy thanksgiving
 
Cotherion said:
What i'm trying to say it is the fault of the customers that specify and the fault of china for having no design codes or regulating body to ensure that a certain standard is kept even if insisted by the customer.
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Second that, Cotherion!!! I'm in aerospace, I see it, too...
 
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