the "new" hardin wsk knife

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I know how you boys here at BF survival love your wsk's...I just saw this maker, and damn, INMHO he is selling these dirt cheap for what they are. I think anyone who is a tracker fan should buy one.

http://www.mtknives.com/wsk.html

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d2 steel. Yeah, d2....How much? $300 bucks. I think that is a wonderful price for D2!
 
looks good, but do you know the dimentions? Is this guy a good maker. Do you think it is as high of quality as a Linger WSK?
 
looks like block of steel. not as pretty as BECK WSK, LINGER WSK or RS6 Blades Predator. probably good knife. looks like solid construction. needs some contouring. little too squared off.
just my $ .02 IMHO no disrespect intended.
does have one thing I wish my Predator had and that is the hole for arrow straightening.
 
does it come with a sheath? mmmm.

reviews, details, more more more!

bladite
 
Measurements for the 1/4" D2 version: Blade 5" long, handle 4.5" long, weight 17 ounces.

Mark Terrell's reputation is excellent; this can be confirmed on the Usual Suspect network, where Mark is active and memories are long.

Mark's website lists the sheath as an extra-cost item between $65 and $100 depending on options (black vs. brown, Scout carry, stitching method, etc.).
 
Really? I just asked him about making me up one, and got the following dimensional info:

I actually make 2 models:

The larger model:

It's overall length is just under 12 inches. It's made from 1/4' D-2
steel and is very beefy. ...

The smaller one:

It's OAL is just over 10.5 inches. It's made from 3/16' D-2 steel and
it's still very beefy.
 
wade said:
looks good, but do you know the dimentions? Is this guy a good maker. Do you think it is as high of quality as a Linger WSK?

Mark Terrell makes WICKED knives. Check him out on the USN, he doesn't come over here, I don't think.
 
Looks much nicer than the TOPS that I have. Paid damn near the same price with the leather sheath that I have with it. But to be honest I'm thinking about getting rid of mine.
 
Sweet knife...I have looked at the TopS version at the local gunshop and while I liked it, I tend to prefer smaller blades for field stuff...(yea I got small hands..lol)

But I gotta admit, this one has me interested...If I wasnt planning on buying a Hog Island Boa in the next couple of months, my CC might be crying:D


Scout carry for the sheath all the way bro...Benny would want it that way;)
 
I like the Fowler version. Much more practical and usable IMO. I will never understand the appeal of the Brown, Tops, etc. style WSK. Sawback severely limit ones ability to baton and it doesn't seem like there are enough teeth on most of them to even saw all that efficiently anyway. I'll take my Camp Tramp anyday over one of these gimicky a$$ knives for a user in the field. Oh well to each their own.
 
TOPs has just released a smaller version of thier Tracker. From what it says on the Tracker School page it is around 2" shorter over all. I haven't seen one so I don't know for sure.

Ric
 
Kaylee said:
Really? I just asked him about making me up one, and got the following dimensional info:

I'm an idiot. His figures are right; mine were based upon a distorted ruler someone made in preparation for an April Fool's prank. I should have thought something was odd. Sorry.

CCH
 
Bear with me here. I've always carried knives with more traditional blade shapes. So I'm just wondering what's the purpose of a blade shaped like the ones shown in this thread. I mean, what did someone have in mind when they designed it? What will it do that makes it a good wilderness knife, And should I get one?
 
ranger88 said:
Bear with me here. I've always carried knives with more traditional blade shapes. So I'm just wondering what's the purpose of a blade shaped like the ones shown in this thread. I mean, what did someone have in mind when they designed it? What will it do that makes it a good wilderness knife, And should I get one?

Those are very reasonable questions. This kind of knife is expensive and hard to sharpen. Why bother with it?

Tom Brown, Jr., was the inventor of the "Medicine Blade", which later evolved into the "Tracker" and WSK. ("Tom Brown Tracker" is a trademark owned by Tom Brown and licensed for use by TOPS Knives; no other knife can be so marketed, so variants are usually called WSKs.) He wanted a knife that would accomplish several tasks he frequently faced in the outdoors:

* making a rabbit stick (draw knife, quarter rounder)
* cutting down small trees (hatchet)
* making a bow (hatchet, draw knife)
* scraping a hide (convex dry hide scraper, concave wet hide scraper)
* cutting square notches for traps and triggers (sawback)
* throwing

I have my own reservations about that last usage.

If you look as the profile of a WSK, you can see the flat draw knife, the quarter rounder, the hatchet/dry hide scraper, the sawback, and the concave wet hide scraper as you trace around the contour of the blade.

Some WSKs, this one included, have a hole for straightening arrows and for applying leverage to cut very hard materials.

The sawback is usually the hardest part to make well and drives up the cost of the knife. TOPS does a poor job of it, in my opinion; the saw binds frequently. Beck's and Linger's sawbacks have classical offset sawteeth and do very well indeed. The Hardin WSK sawback is of unorthodox appearance, but it does the trick.
 
ranger88 said:
Bear with me here. I've always carried knives with more traditional blade shapes. So I'm just wondering what's the purpose of a blade shaped like the ones shown in this thread. I mean, what did someone have in mind when they designed it? What will it do that makes it a good wilderness knife, And should I get one?

oddly enough, according to someone i know that has gone to tracker school, taught by tom brown and company, the very idea of the tracker knife is ... 180 to the philosophy they teach in many ways. i can see the point. the knife is an all in one wonder "gimmick"... a real tracker scout would simply not have to worry about such a thing, the land would provide with sufficient skill. well, that's the idea. for mere mortals... a knife is very useful. a wsk? well. mmmm. doesn't stop me from wanting one (or two versions) though.

bladite
 
Bladite said:
oddly enough, according to someone i know that has gone to tracker school, taught by tom brown and company, the very idea of the tracker knife is ... 180 to the philosophy they teach in many ways. i can see the point. the knife is an all in one wonder "gimmick"... a real tracker scout would simply not have to worry about such a thing, the land would provide with sufficient skill. well, that's the idea. for mere mortals... a knife is very useful. a wsk? well. mmmm. doesn't stop me from wanting one (or two versions) though.

bladite

I to have been to the Tom Brown Tracker school, and I also wondered the same thing at times. They do teach that you don't need anything man made to survive, and to live off the land. I thought the school was a little on the high side price Wise, but I could not take in enough information, I was constantly taking notes, and drawing pictures. I talked to several of the instructors, and I get the impression from some of them that the Tracker knife, WSK, or other wise is a good aid in speeding up the daily chores. Some of those guys, go out and look for lost people, and so on, so a tool like that would be a quicker way to do things rather than have to take time to make a stone knife. Also a lot of students were military who also have a short time to get what ever task is at hand done. Not to mention Search and Rescue teams. One of the instructors I talked to liked his tracker for hunting, and so on.
So yes it does seem a little strange that a survival school who teaches you to live with nothing man made, also sells a do all knife, but believe me it has several good uses. To tell the truth, I didn't have any idea of the Tracker school, or what they were about, until discovering the Tracker knife ( Tops ).
At first I though man this is the ugliest knife I have ever seen. I saw it everywhere. I saw it in magazines, the Internet, etc. I eventually read enough about it, to see what it was supposed to do, and how that I bought one. I eventually got hold of a Beck WSK, and had even tried selling it to make other knife related purchases. For one reason or another the deal would always fall thru, and I have decided to just keep it.
 
jon
did you ever sell your WSK? I like my Predator but I would like to see it and the BECK or Linger side by side for comparision. Redscorpion Six Blades seems to have a straighter design. seems from pictures that Beck version has an angle of handle to blade.
I have really enjoyed my Predator but I was curious if there was really a significant advantage for the angle. What has been your experience?
 
For me the angle handle makes it easier to flip AND keep a grip when chopping. Imagine throwing a straight boomarang... A curved one will snap more.
 
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