The new Mora Garberg

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This morning at the SHOT Show Mora released pictures of their newest model, the Garberg. It's full tang with construction similar to the knives offered by Fallkniven.




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Unlike other Moras this one will come with a leather sheath. The biggest difference is the cost. MSRP is a whopping $110! :eek:

I think I'll be sticking with my High Q Robust.
 
One would guess that a lot of that is sheath, low production numbers (comparably) and lower overall wholesale numbers. This one won't be in every hardware store in scandinavia, rather a marketing move (a smart one) if it compares favorably with all the other "bushcrafter" knives, its not bad. Rich for my blood, but not unreaslistic.
 
I was wondering how much it would cost to retool and stamp out full tang blanks. Apparently quite a bit. Unfortunately lack of sales will probably be interpreted as lack of interest and limited run will become a self fulfilling prophecy.

A price point of $30 with a simple mora robust type handle and sheath and this would be a home run
 
Time and some real use will tell. Weight, balance, how the sheath works, lots to see and checkout.

Mora Site says expect them to start shipping in late second quarter. So if things go well, we might see them in June or July.
 
anyone know what the MSRP of their higher dollar knives, like the 2000, 2010, and other big ones?
 
Interesting for sure, and I like the sheath too. I assume it's going to be costing full retail here so I will probably pass.
 
anyone know what the MSRP of their higher dollar knives, like the 2000, 2010, and other big ones?

The 2000 and 2010 are $39.99 and $49.99 respectively. Available for a 30% discount. The Bushcraft Black has an MSRP of $99.99 and I've seen them on sale at 39% off. The Pathfinder is $129.99 and I've found them at 41% off. It looks like street price for the Garberg will ~ $65 best case scenario.
 
Call me old fashion, but I like flap sheaths. Protects the knife from weather, and from getting hammered by stuff you rub up against when going about your daily life. It provides security and relativly easy access. Plus you don't have to worry about slicing the retention strap like you do on so many modern sheaths. I have come to veiw a good sheath as in integral part of my knife using experience

One of my first knives when I was a kid had this type of sheath. Even if or when the snap breaks, the knife is still securely tucked down inside.

I really want to be a kydex guy. But I really don't care for sheaths that scratch the crap out of my knives when I insert and extract them.

I have heard stories of knives freezing in leather sheaths. At 56 Years of age I have never experienced it. Last week I was out in the woods, it was fairly cold. High single digits. I had my S-1 out with me. Safely tucked in a Custom Kydex jobbie.

Well I have been impressed with the tight, slim, quiet fit of the sheath. So I forgave the scratching to my knife. Until I went to unsheath the knife. I got it out. But it took two hands. I guess the kydex can give you problems in cold weather too.

Not knocking the kydex world. I know it serves many extremely well. But I am a Luddite when it comes to much of my outdoor gear. I like wood snowshoes, wool clothing, and leather sheaths.

This knife may or may not be over priced. But folks have been screaming for a full tang Mora for a long time. New tooling, what looks like it could be a much upgraded sheath, R&D, and all the rest conspire to elevate the price.

I was never a Mora person. But I was gifted one as part of a sale. I Bought a Knife and a hawk. The gent that sold them to me sent along. Frost River Lunch Bag with a Mora in it as a gift. I think it is a #2, but I can't swear to it.

Then I recieved another one, a Mora 2000 as a buy one get one free deal with a Blind Horse blade.
I have to admit, they do a surprisingly good job at a lot of tasks.

If you take a look at Helle's new full tang knife, the Utvaer. There is a similar price jump. It is also quite a bit more expensive than its stick tang siblings.

Personally, I hate it when companies release info about products that are still six months out. But that seems to be the new paradigm, develop interest long in advance of release.

Folks seem to be a little twitchy about the cost of the Bushcraft Black and Bushcraft Survival. But the reviews have been stellar. At least the ones I have read.

The downside I see to this early info release. Is that it is very one sided. All we get is some pictures and the List Price.

Plus DC telling us it is a knife he can trust his life to. If there is no monetary transaction there, that might mean something. If there is. Well, think Ed Mcmahon and Publisher's Clearing House. Plus it flies in the face of his long time statement that you need a 5" minimum blade as your only knife.

I am pretty neutral about DC, so that was not meant to be a bash. But the list of Celebrity Survivalists hawking products is getting longer as each day passes. Pay me and slap my name on a knife, and chances are good I will find something good to say about it too.

I hope none of this comes off as me not liking or at least wanting to like this knife. Because that is not the case. I do really want to like it. And I will most likely be a beta tester for it when it comes along. If it does everything I need it to do.,then it will seem properly priced, perhaps even cheap.

Again at my age, I need to keep things in perspective. I may actually cave and try a pair of technical Snowshoes. Because the wood/rawhide ones are getting up around the $300.00 mark. In my mind wood shoes should still cost around $89.00, not $300.00+

Is a $100.00 knife really that unreasonable. When a gallon of milk is $4.50, and a new Ford F-150 is $60,000.00.

In my mind, not if it does what I need it to do.
 
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Hello All,

I was excited to hear about the new FT knife, but I am a bit iffy after I read some of the specs. One of the reasons I like my Mora Companion SS is that it is fairly tough in relation to its weight (just a hair over 4 ounces)and for long distance backpacking weight is important. The FT knife on the other hand is more than double the weight at 9.6 ounces and this gives me great pause. I can carry 2 Companions and it would still be lighter than the new FT Mora. I saw another youtube video from shotshow and outside of a couple of holes required for the handle it is solid all the way through. I am not an engineer or knife maker, but I would have liked to have seen them taper the thickness of the tang down a bit and skeletonize the tang to further drive down the weight. I do not think that would compromise the strength of the knife so much, but someone can correct me if the strength would be compromised that much. I see lots of knife blanks from reputable knife manufacturers that hollow out the tang (eg, Enzo) and that seems okay for folks. I think I will have to think on it some more I suppose.

Thanks,

LittleRay
 
Thanks Kamagong.

LittleRay, Its all in the process and methods. with a CNC water-jet, plas or laser table, its pretty much a simple question of each mm of cutting costs a certain amount, and the programming, once done, has no additional cost. for a certain level of production, that makes sense. However for a rolled/stamped process like Mora use, that stamping processes and dies have to be carefully planned out, and each additional complication has cost. Same with tapering the tang, thats going to have a certain cost, and then may cost more when it comes to designing the handle mold. This is me assuming that its a die-cut blade, I have no actual knowledge of that, it just makes sense to me.

Its a market thing. Right now the market is demanding full tang knives, and Mora are responding. however a normal mora will do for most people's uses, and that's more where you are, prizing weight over brute strength.

At the end of the day, we are not the average knife buyers here, and every company is trying to figure out what the average guy wants. Mora wants to compete in a wider market, which makes sense, and so they feel this is a good entry. We will see how it fairs against other options in that category which as I see them are the camillus, gerber, and similar offerings.
 
Its a market thing. Right now the market is demanding full tang knives, and Mora are responding. however a normal mora will do for most people's uses, and that's more where you are, prizing weight over brute strength.


^^^This^^^

Not everybody needs a sharpened Leaf Spring all the time.
 
Looks like Mora is shooting at a military contract. They already make a great line of lighter weight knives so I'm ok with the idea of a heavy weight to compete with Fallkniven. It'll be easy enough to ignore if it doesn't have any real advantage over similar knives. I'll give one a shot for grins.
 
I think the weight has to be including the sheath- 9.6 oz seems like a pig of a knife that is just over 4" and only 1/8", for comparison the F1 is 6.0 oz and it's thicker stock
 
Anyone have issues with a regular/normal Mora? Mine seem pretty darn indestructible to me at almost throw away prices. At the last gunshow most of the knives at the cheap knockoff table were more expensive than the few Mora's being sold...
 
I'm real happy with my two Finnish puukot, my Croatian puukko (thanks Malanika, it's on my belt as I write this!), my rehandled Mora 911, and for full-tang happiness my Becker BK-15. I have other knives, of course, but that's the inventory of mid-size fixed blades. Given what I have, I can't see the need for this Mora. But if someone is new to the fixed blade world and wants a strong blade with a Scandinavian grind, this Garberg looks like it's going to be a winner. It may be pricey for its place in the market, but it likely won't let anyone down.

Zieg
 
As Mora is a tremendous value considering price and performance, the new model has some big, CHEAP shoes to fill. I will probably buy one as a brand fan, but I don't expect the level of performance to justify the additional cost.
 
I like my cheap companions with plastic sheaths. I like my high dollar bushcraft knives. A full tang knife made with Swedish steel and leather sheath for around 100 bucks sounds like a decent deal. If it did not say Mora on it, some of us would probably buy it
 
I keep coming back to that leather sheath having to be a chunk of the cost. mtwarden, it could very well be a package weight.

Saxon, they already have a military contract with the 2K, If that was the target, I'd have expected the same blade grind and size, just more tang. (granted its the Swedish military, but there are other militaries that use a utility knife more than a "combat" one.
 
Can't see myself buying one of these, when I can get a Condor Bushlore w/ micarta scales for half the price.
 
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