The NEXT SALE

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I would really appreciate anyone who has the good keyboard foo to proxy for me this Friday for
One of the d2 nask. I have tried these Friday sales for several
Months but can't seem to crack the top 15 or so. Any help
Would be greatly appreciated.
 
I am all proxied out for:

1A: Brian77 Brian77

1B: JustinFournier JustinFournier

1C: @grogimus

I expect Nathan to allow max 2 units per bidder (so only max 2 out of the 3 above can count on me) and I further expect that either 1B or 1C to get their own
(1A will be out there somewhere on the farm) by either out foo'ing me or 1B himself or 1B's alt-proxy out foo'ing me (1C is hopeless :D).

It is also entirely possible that I suffer a catastrophic senior moment by forgetting about the whole sale................................................... NOT!
 
A problem with multiple proxies is we end up with multiple shipping address and billing information for a particular order. I'm okay with simple proxies because it reduces complexity where a person buys a knife for another person and ships it to them (it saves one shipping step reducing cost and risk), but there is a problem with multiple proxies, both for us and for the people coming to the sale but not getting in.

In order to keep things fair and allow everyone who comes to the sale to have a good shot at getting what they came for, I'm going to limit it to one purchase per post. That purchase can be for multiple knives, but if someone is buying multiples they'll need to plan on paying for and receiving those multiples. Otherwise they'll need to make multiple posts. I think this is fair because it still allows everyone to get what they want, and it gives the people with slower fingers or connections a fair shot at getting what they came for too.

Multiple proxies = multiple orders = multiple posts
 
Well, beloved 1B and 1C, the Lord of House Carothers has spoken. Every man, woman and wight for himself, herself and itself.

From what I understand, I could for instance claim 2 max, but I will have to pay for them and then distribute to those I proxied for when I receive them, putting the payment and the shipping onus / risk onto myself and my proxy partners. Further, I can not say: "I'll take 2, one for me and one for 1A" as if I'm both a buyer and a proxy; so I will have to decide as to whether I am an actual buyer or a proxy buyer (similar situation with Lukey aka EBP last Friday). Am I correct Nathan?

Thanks for the clarification and I think that this system is ABSOLUTELY fair both to CPK and to the other patrons. :thumbsup:
 
Casinostocks said:
Well, beloved 1B and 1C, the Lord of House Carothers has spoken. Every man, woman and wight for himself, herself and itself.

From what I understand, I could for instance claim 2 max, but I will have to pay for them and then distribute to those I proxied for when I receive them, putting the payment and the shipping onus / risk onto myself and my proxy partners. Further, I can not say: "I'll take 2, one for me and one for 1A" as if I'm both a buyer and a proxy; so I will have to decide as to whether I am an actual buyer or a proxy buyer (similar situation with Lukey aka EBP last Friday). Am I correct Nathan?

Thanks for the clarification and I think that this system is ABSOLUTELY fair both to CPK and to the other patrons. :thumbsup:
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Hey Mat, (Nate's tied up) yes, that's right. It was getting very confusing and complicated. Thanks for understanding. :)
 
Mat, can you dig out my post from the first proxy discussion where I suggested the proxy should have to make payment, accept delivery and forward the knife thus simplifying CPKs experience while massively cutting down on proxies and preventing the same people from winning all the time?
 
JustinFournier said:
Mat, can you dig out my post from the first proxy discussion where I suggested the proxy should have to make payment, accept delivery and forward the knife thus simplifying CPKs experience while massively cutting down on proxies and preventing the same people from winning all the time?
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I remember that post but I'm also currently on my cellphone waiting at the dreaded DMV.

If you recall, I also chimed along with you along similar lines and got chided by some (looking at U Cotton). I believe that Dave was also on the same wavelength as what you had opined.

Nathan's earlier post made things a lot more clear cut and fair for everyone.
 
JustinFournier said:
Mat, can you dig out my post from the first proxy discussion where I suggested the proxy should have to make payment, accept delivery and forward the knife thus simplifying CPKs experience while massively cutting down on proxies and preventing the same people from winning all the time?
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I'll see if I can find and bump the etiquette thread. Does that seem like where it was J?

Edit: Here's my first post of that thread. I also bumped it, or the arrow links to it.

Hard Knocks said:
Since there's a good chance that trying to land a CPK is going to involve some proxy arrangements, and since I've had some questions by PM, I thought it might be a good idea to lay out what to expect in a proxy deal. It is possible that I will miss something that others can add to, or some of you might have experience in a proxy deal that went one way or another. Why was it good? What made it bad? Feel free to fill in the gaps.

First, what is a proxy? Merriam-Webster's definition: "a person who is given the power or authority to do something for someone else." In this case it will be authorizing someone to make a purchase for you.

Obviously there will be an element of trust between parties in a proxy purchase. Proxy deals work much better between parties with a previously-established relationship.

Here are some things to consider before entering a proxy arrangement:

#1. Buying by proxy is a deal between you and your proxy. This type of deal should in no way put any extra burden on the maker; i.e. the person standing as proxy should not request the maker to ship to any address other than his own. It is the proxy's responsibility to reship orders to the final owner.

#2. You should expect to pay extra when buying by proxy. Your proxy has secured your blade and will be taking on extra expense in order to ship it to you. Depending on how funds are transferred, your proxy may have fees that need to be covered as well. Make sure that it costs your proxy nothing monetarily to secure your knife for you.

#3. Make sure to get the funds to the person acting as proxy in a timely manner. This is a point that needs to be worked out between the two of you. Some proxies will need to recoup funds that they have spent shortly after the sale, and then get shipping costs from you in a second transfer. Others might be content to wait until the knife is in their hands and ready to ship to you so that the whole thing is wrapped up in one transfer. Absolutely expect to reimburse your proxy before he/she ships your blade. Good communication is key. Work this out early so that there are no surprises for either party.

#4. If you have your heart set on a certain color or material combination, make sure to convey that information. A little flexibility can mean the difference between a score or not in some of these fast sales. Ask yourself what you want and also what you can live with. For example, 'I really want a 3V blade and black micarta scales, but will be happy with any scales as long as the blade is 3V.' That's the kind of thing a proxy needs to know so that he/she can adjust on the fly. If you are absolutely dead set on a certain combo, convey that as well. For example, 'This will be a gift for my boy, and his school colors are black and blue, so I only want it if you can grab one with black & blue g10 and a black sheath.' Of course this may or may not apply to some sales with limited options, just be sure to communicate.

It's probably clear by now that there's a bunch of things that can go wrong with proxy buying. If you can avoid it, do so. Should you decide to ask someone to proxy for you, use someone you trust, and that trusts you. And, be patient and understanding of the hoops the proxy is trying to jump through to nail down your much-coveted blade. This thread should not be viewed as a promotion of buying by proxy. Rather it should be viewed as guidelines to help such a deal to go as smooth as possible.

These are the things that are coming to mind off the top of my head. I've had good experiences so far with this kind of thing. I'm sure others have had less than stellar experiences at times. If you've got something to add, feel free to do so. It will be good if someone considering this gets all the pros and cons before jumping in with both feet.

Cheers

David
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I don't suppose it really matters where it is but yes Dave your post was great, long and detailed.

I'm... Glad to see Nathan took a stance on this that is as usual well thought out and considerate of all parties involved.

I'm glad it never turned into Ninja for hire.
 
Hard Knocks said:
I'll see if I can find and bump the etiquette thread. Does that seem like where it was J?

Edit: Here's my first post of that thread. I also bumped it, or the arrow links to it.
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I never saw this , but it great work. I appreciate the thought and time investing into that. I agree and good luck to everyone.
 
QUOTE="JustinFournier, post: 17413247, member: 317898"] Nathan the Machinist Nathan the Machinist

Will these be with bark, colour left in the fuller or anything like that?

Just wondering how far along the process they are, or if they are all kinda the same looking.

Thanks,

Justin[/QUOTE]

Yes sort of. But they're really clean. We're working on finishing 20 for Friday and I have a few in the drawer for photography. Here's a crappy cell phone picture.

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^ Really looking forward to this issue/size/condition. Oh, yeah, adding that second shot makes it even more desired. Just a really great size.
 
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