The One Knife?

[sharp_edge]

I voted Cold Steel and was thinking about Recon 1 as a hard use one to add to mini grip and PM2.

 

[Hackenslash]

with option ability to use Tactical.

Help me out here first. What is your definition of “tactical”?

Does your use of a capital “T” have some significance?

What makes one knife tactical and another not tactical? Blood grooves? Anti-glare coating? Zip ties? Ray skin wrap?

If by Tactical you’re asking for which knife to take to a kerfluffle, I’ll say grab a SAK and some pepper spray.

 

[justjed]

Tactical is easy. Use the EDGE, not the point. If you stab someone, even in a vital organ, as has been mentioned, it takes some time for blood loss to slow an attack. Open them up like a can-opener, to where they can SEE the blood(and/or their innards trying to become outtards), and they'll likely break contact and seek super-glue, duct tape, or (ideally) medical attention. Your chances go up immensely. But, if you choose to pull a knife in a conflict, DO NOT give them time to react. Wade in swinging, and once you start moving, do not stop.

THEM'S tactics!

Another thing to think about is that using the point, actually stabbing someone, is often seen as intent to kill by the courts and civil juries. Using the edge is more likely to be considered actual self-defense. Personally, I carry a .45, as well as a knife or two, because I don't have time to think about all this crap if I am attacked...

 

[jstrange]

I already got my fav from Spyderco. The One Eyed Jack is the nicest knife I have ever had and I won’t ever get rid of it. Keep in mind I have bought many knives that cost twice as much as the OEJ.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Another thing to think about is that using the point, actually stabbing someone, is often seen as intent to kill by the courts and civil juries. Using the edge is more likely to be considered actual self-defense. Personally, I carry a .45, as well as a knife or two, because I don't have time to think about all this crap if I am attacked...

Nope. This is internet mythology.
It's not "often seen as intent".
Not a single case of this factoring into a self defense case.

The threshold for using deadly force to defend yourself, is whether you legitimately feared for your life or the life of another.
Your technique is irrelevant.

 

[justjed]

Sorry, nope, I was told that by a judge, long before there was an internet. Now, as to whether it actually had a bearing on any case, I could not say, because there are usually extenuating circumstances when it comes to self defense. And given the MILLIONS of SD cases in this country alone each year, it would not surprise me either way.

Nor is it of any great concern to me. I carry 17rds of .45 HP for situations like that.

And I am not afraid to admit that I am too lazy to research it right now.

 

[justjed]

I will also admit to a slight exaggeration, and correct it here: ...using the point, actually stabbing someone, CAN BE SEEN as intent to kill..."

 

[TexasAlaskan7141]

I have to say, I have a CRK Large Sebenza 21 and Umnumzaan and both of them perform amazingly! I would highly recommend the Sebenza although if you like you knives a little more stout then I would go for the Umnumzaan. I am kind of against the "one knife" mainly because there are just so many amazing knives out there and each person has their own "one knife." I would recommend purchasing a couple knives and testing each one, I promise you will eventually find the one for you! Hopefully like Kreyzhorse said, you will eventually find "the one" again.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Sorry, nope, I was told that by a judge, long before there was an internet. Now, as to whether it actually had a bearing on any case, I could not say, because there are usually extenuating circumstances when it comes to self defense. And given the MILLIONS of SD cases in this country alone each year, it would not surprise me either way.

Nor is it of any great concern to me. I carry 17rds of .45 HP for situations like that.

And I am not afraid to admit that I am too lazy to research it right now.

This is akin to the mythology Mas Ayoob spouts about using hollow points, or handloads for SD.
It's incorrect.

Either it's self defense or it isn't.
If deadly force is justified, then of course the intent is to kill.

You are not required to wound if your life is truely in danger.
The judge lied, or you misunderstood.

I will also admit to a slight exaggeration, and correct it here: ...using the point, actually stabbing someone, CAN BE SEEN as intent to kill..."

That's irrelevant.
It's either justified or it isn't.
Period.

 

[justjed]

I never mentioned anything about a REQUIREMENT to wound. Point or edge is really immaterial, we were discussing tactics. And I cleared up my error. Point or edge, engaging with a knife is all about tactics. Strategy, on the other hand, is focused on the end-goal. Survival. Of course I will shoot to kill. Of course I will stab. And slice, and bludgeon. Whatever tactics are needed to win.

There's no such thing as a fair fight, and anyone who thinks there is has never been in one.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Nope. This is internet mythology.
It's not "often seen as intent".
Not a single case of this factoring into a self defense case.

The threshold for using deadly force to defend yourself, is whether you legitimately feared for your life or the life of another.
Your technique is irrelevant.

I never mentioned anything about a REQUIREMENT to wound. Point or edge is really immaterial, we were discussing tactics. And I cleared up my error. Point or edge, engaging with a knife is all about tactics. Strategy, on the other hand, is focused on the end-goal. Survival. Of course I will shoot to kill. Of course I will stab. And slice, and bludgeon. Whatever tactics are needed to win.

There's no such thing as a fair fight, and anyone who thinks there is has never been in one.

I was being jumped by 4 to 5 guys in LaLaLand Chicago and all that I did was draw a teeny tiny Benchmade folder to my hip, and yell "KNIFE." The knife did not move off of my hip. No swing, no slice, no thrust.

They stopped grabbing me, stopped striking me(kicks and slaps, and moving to punches), and I walked away.

The LaLaLand Chicago prosecutor and judge gave me Misdemeanor Ag Assault for which I had two years probation. Never once was I asked if I was struck. There was no trial, I plead out. I did not have USCCA Insurance at the time. I do now.

If you think you will ever have to defend yourself, using whatever means, get USCCA Insurance.

 

[Mario Jones]

OK everyone.... Thanks so much for all your support. I decided on the large Sebenza 21 ebony Inlay for my 3rd choice of knives. Based on what I already had in EDC knives, I felt this was the best way to round off of all my choices. Didn't go with a fix blade because it's not carryable. But it was a nice suggestion. Again, thanks everyone who posted

 

[Bad Ninja]

OK everyone.... Thanks so much for all your support. I decided on the large Sebenza 21 ebony Inlay for my 3rd choice of knives. Based on what I already had in EDC knives, I felt this was the best way to round off of all my choices. Didn't go with a fix blade because it's not carryable. But it was a nice suggestion. Again, thanks everyone who posted

Can't go wrong with a Sebenza.
Nice choice!!

I was being jumped by 4 to 5 guys in LaLaLand Chicago and all that I did was draw a teeny tiny Benchmade folder to my hip, and yell "KNIFE." The knife did not move off of my hip. No swing, no slice, no thrust.

They stopped grabbing me, stopped striking me(kicks and slaps, and moving to punches), and I walked away.

The LaLaLand Chicago prosecutor and judge gave me Misdemeanor Ag Assault for which I had two years probation. Never once was I asked if I was struck. There was no trial, I plead out. I did not have USCCA Insurance at the time. I do now.

If you think you will ever have to defend yourself, using whatever means, get USCCA Insurance.

Tim Schmidt will send you a million emails a week (USCCA insurance joke).

That's Chi Town for you.
Still wouldn't have mattered of you stabbed or slashed.
It was a matter of proving your life was in fact, in danger... And being in one of the cities that are trying to desparately disarm the populace.
Without going into personal details, I have been through a personal defense situation worse than that, and have talked IN DEPTH with a very expensive attorney on this topic.
Break no law, prove you felt you life was in danger, and you meet the threshold for deadly force in self defense.
Technique is irrelevant.

I never mentioned anything about a REQUIREMENT to wound. Point or edge is really immaterial, we were discussing tactics. And I cleared up my error. Point or edge, engaging with a knife is all about tactics. Strategy, on the other hand, is focused on the end-goal. Survival. Of course I will shoot to kill. Of course I will stab. And slice, and bludgeon. Whatever tactics are needed to win.

There's no such thing as a fair fight, and anyone who thinks there is has never been in one.

Technique is irrelevant, and has nothing to do with a using deadly force in self defense.

Bad unfounded advice like that causes people to second guess themselves and has gotten people killed.

I'd rather not go off topic in this thread so if you would like to learn more, or discuss this further please start a topic in Practice &Tac and we can talk more.

 

[mushka]

I had to check "other" because I don't know where the ONE will come from.

 

[jux t]

I'm torn between a sodboster and a waved recon 1. Seriously though, really nice CRK ya got there.

 

[Quiet]

I was being jumped by 4 to 5 guys in LaLaLand Chicago and all that I did was draw a teeny tiny Benchmade folder to my hip, and yell "KNIFE." The knife did not move off of my hip. No swing, no slice, no thrust.

They stopped grabbing me, stopped striking me(kicks and slaps, and moving to punches), and I walked away.

The LaLaLand Chicago prosecutor and judge gave me Misdemeanor Ag Assault for which I had two years probation. Never once was I asked if I was struck. There was no trial, I plead out. I did not have USCCA Insurance at the time. I do now.

If you think you will ever have to defend yourself, using whatever means, get USCCA Insurance.

As completely fabricated stories go, I'll give this a three.

 

[jlauffer]

I was being jumped by 4 to 5 guys in LaLaLand Chicago and all that I did was draw a teeny tiny Benchmade folder to my hip, and yell "KNIFE." The knife did not move off of my hip. No swing, no slice, no thrust.

They stopped grabbing me, stopped striking me(kicks and slaps, and moving to punches), and I walked away.

The LaLaLand Chicago prosecutor and judge gave me Misdemeanor Ag Assault for which I had two years probation. Never once was I asked if I was struck. There was no trial, I plead out. I did not have USCCA Insurance at the time. I do now.

If you think you will ever have to defend yourself, using whatever means, get USCCA Insurance.

How did a prosecutor and judge get involved...who called the cops?

 

[Tommy-Chi]

I happened to read a few posts before I logged in. Too bad, I was able to see Quiet's post.

Quiet , who I muted abt a year ago, whose family owns "4 businesses" looks and lives like an Afghani in a mud hut with a bucket for taking a shit in has opened his pie hole again and this is NOT W&C. Yet he will go uncorrected by moderators.

Quiet has never had to be presentable because he has never had a job. He's a leach and his family knows it. Quiet, as once was said abt you, "You're simply ignorant. That's all. Too bad you lash out because of that ignorance, makes you a small man." Watch Quiet, lash out at people he does not even know as if he has a mental disorder. Again. Again. And.... again.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

How did a prosecutor and judge get involved...who called the cops?

The gang bangers! I face down gangs in my neighborhood. I've dealt with the 43rd Street Boys, Latin Kings, ...

When the cop arrived, he just arrested me, which is fine, I don't think it's a good idea to talk to anyone before seeing a lawyer.

 

[FullMetalJackass]

IBTL!