The One thing Spyderco could learn from SOG

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Spydiefan04

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OK I have to admit I have been carrying a SOG Flash II for the past little while and I don't even like assisted knives. The thing I absolutely love about it is the pocket clip. I really wish Spyderco would come up with a similar system perhaps with a wire clip. I prefer their clip for 2 reasons: 1) deeper carry is more secure, you are less likely to lose your knife 2) by only the clip being visible it is more discrete. The disadvantage is that you can argue you can't deploy the blade quite as fast. What I would really like to see is Spyderco come out with an accessory deep carry wire clip that can be added to the Delica/Endura series.
 
Get a Caly 3.:D

Spyderco has been putting the clips further out than before. The Police 3 is pretty deep (in tip down), the Manix 2 looks pretty good as well.
You just have to pick the right model.
 
Not me, keep'em high I like to be able to grab my knife.
 
So what's the answer? How can everybody be happy without Spyderco going nuts with 2 or 3 different clip styles per model? -- Aftermarket! STR puts deep-carry clips on knives. :)
 
The only clip issue I have ever had with any Spyderco is that it might not be lefty friendly. I held off for a long time before I bought a Paramilitary for that very reason. Sure glad I decided to try it anyway. What an awesome folder.

The ones with the wire clips are very secure. You can barely get them out of your pocket. My D2 Para is really secure. Between the texture of the G10 and the tightness of the clip I have no worries that the knife is going anywhere.

I don't mind the knife exposure. Being in Texas, we're all about knives and handguns so I rarely get a look from anyone when I carry.
 
I hate low ride clips, I like to have some purchase when deploying, but I can understand why people would want them. I agree with Esav, aftermarket is the way to go...
 
I Googled STR, thanks for the info that's kinda what I've been looking for. I like the standard Spyderco clips I just like being more discrete. Think I'll send him a knife once that FRN flat ground delica comes out:D
 
I can see the advantages to deep carry, but I like that my para sticks out a bit, makes it easier to grab and pull out.

The option to carry either way is always a plus, but that would add cost, something that wouldn't be good for the delica/endura .

lol there would be no clips if it weren't for Spyderco!
 
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one around here that hates this trend towards deep carry. I don't even like the wire clip, but I'll settle for one if I have to.

My philosophy is this: The point of having a pocket clip is so the knife is easily accessible. Not to hide the knife.

When I reach for my knife, I don't want everything else in my pocket to come out with it.

In my opinion, deep carry clips have no place on a larger folder. The only knives that need deeper carry are smaller knives that may not have the pocket retention due to a shorter handle.

Like others have said, I think the Military/Paramilitary has the best pocket clip placement of any knife. There's a good bit of knife above the pocket to get a good hold on, but still plenty of knife in the pocket that it's not going anywhere.

Who cares if someone notices you're carrying a knife. And honestly, how many non-knife people are gonna know that clip on your pocket is a knife?

STR does some fine work, even if I don't like low ride clips.
 
I have had two spyderco knives and have lost them both. I think it was because they sit too high in my pocket. I have carried a flashII sog for three years now. I wish sog and spyderco would join sog frame and spyderco blades. One can dream.
 
Halworks said:
I have had two spyderco knives and have lost them both. I think it was because they sit too high in my pocket. I have carried a flashII sog for three years now. I wish sog and spyderco would join sog frame and spyderco blades. One can dream.
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Hopefully without the mass of customer service calls. :rolleyes:

I've never lost a knife due to a clip. I think that on certain knives (Sage II, Caly3, UKPK) the deep pocket wire clip works great. Others (Stretch, Manix 2 thought it's tip up, Military, Paramilitary, Endura, Delica) work best with the standard clip.
 
I like the design of the Spydie clips but I always prefer tip up because I like to put a lanyard on my knives to make it easier to yank em out.

When its tip down only, the lanyard is really just a decoration.
 
Josh K said:
I love how my Military rides with that ~1" square "tab" I can grab. Makes it super easy to deploy with gloves on.
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+1
I have a sog trident and a flash 2. I dislike the clips on them. I don't need to hide my knives and pocket bury them. My flash was so stiff I couldn't even clip it over my jeans when I first got it. I had to grab my multi and bend them out so they would slide reasonably over my pocket. To extricate the sog's I have to rely on catching the bottom of the clip with my finger and pull them up. With no knife to grab onto this is somewhat of an annoyance. If you squeeze onto the clip portion while pulling in pocket I am squeezing the clip against my pants which makes it more difficult to extricate.
I really quite like a little handle sticking out personally. :)
 
Psychopomp said:
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one around here that hates this trend towards deep carry. I don't even like the wire clip, but I'll settle for one if I have to.

My philosophy is this: The point of having a pocket clip is so the knife is easily accessible. Not to hide the knife.
[I think you can have your cake and eat it, too, in this case. A deep pocket clip that, say, puts the top of the knife flush with top of your pocket is going to be above your keys and other pocket utilities because without clips they will sink to the bottom.]

When I reach for my knife, I don't want everything else in my pocket to come out with it.
[I certainly agree, and as mentioned above, I don't think having a deep pocket clip will cause this problem, at least it wouldn't in any pants I have, but shallow pockets and I can see could have a problem. The choice for me, wanting to conceal, is either no clip or a deep-carry clip because I am certainly familiar with having my knife get caught up with my keys, fall below my phone, etc.]

In my opinion, deep carry clips have no place on a larger folder. The only knives that need deeper carry are smaller knives that may not have the pocket retention due to a shorter handle.
[My waved Endura is the knife I most want a deep carry clip for. I'm not sure if you consider it a large folder (I do), but it's certainly annoying not using the clip and having it drop in my pocket and reorient to horizontal, which happens every time I have it in a pocket with small things (e.g., keys) instead of something bulky to block it (e.g., wallet, phone). For that reason if I had one choice of deep pocket clips for large knives or smaller ones, I'd chose larger; small ones aren't such a bother at the bottom of one's pocket. ]

Like others have said, I think the Military/Paramilitary has the best pocket clip placement of any knife. There's a good bit of knife above the pocket to get a good hold on, but still plenty of knife in the pocket that it's not going anywhere.

Who cares if someone notices you're carrying a knife. And honestly, how many non-knife people are gonna know that clip on your pocket is a knife?
[I'll get shit every block walking down the street with a knife visible. And call me a humanist, but I don't want to rely on the ignorance of people to know if the clip and part of the handle are a knife.]

STR does some fine work, even if I don't like low ride clips.
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I wish they'd make deep pocket clips, even if it was something compatible with the current slots that one could buy later to replace the factory one. I use the clip to keep it from sliding around my pocket, not to make it easier to draw, and most of the time having a knife visible will simply draw negative attention where I am. My only Spyderco to keep its clip is the waved Endura because I find it comfortable to put the tips of my fingers on it when using the wave (which is to say, the clip is not used for its ability to clip). Also, there are enough models using a couple types of clips that I don't think inventory would be much of a problem.
 
I guess I don't see the big deal because I have never had a problem getting a knife out of my pocket. Well maybe if I'm wearing tight jeans and sitting down so the knife is twisted a little in my pocket it can be hard to get my finger in the pocket to grab the knife.

I prefer tip up and don't care how the clip rides. If you just slide your thumb in your pocket next to your knife then you can just slide the knife back out. With tip up the knife is in your hand with the tip of your thumb close to the pivot. Very little has to be done to then use whatever opening device it has and get the blade opened.

If the knife is tip down, once you get it out of your pocket you have to turn the knife around. If you grab the part of the knife at the top of your pocket you essentially have the pivot in your grasp and can flip the knife around this point into your palm. This can be pretty effortless, but you still have to change the position of the knife in your hand.

Maybe if you were wearing gloves a low rise clip would be hard to manipulate but other than that I don't understand why so many people have problems getting a knife out of their pocket???

I also have had every configuration there is and have never had anything else try to come out with my knife. I really don't understand how that would happen unless you carry magnets in your pocket?
 
where I live it seems like more than half the guys you see have a knife clipped in their pocket, so I don't mind the tips showing a little, but I agree deep carry is less prone to being lost. I also wish they wouldn't make the tip of the clip so upswept, mine is always snagging on things when I brush against something or get in/out of my truck, and damn near every time I put on/take off my seatbelt it seems to snag on my Endura's clip and pull it out of my pocket :mad: every time I lose my endura i check under my driver's seat and viola, there it is lol.
 
I'll pass on the SOG-style low riding clips. Big part of the problem is that they're generally too short to work as well as the regular clips. I also dislike the large, square, very unergonomic part that sticks out at the butt of the knife.

I'm glad low-ride pocket clips are available as an aftermarket item and with a few exceptions I hope they stay there.

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knifenut1013 said:
Not me, keep'em high I like to be able to grab my knife.
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I totally agree with ya here when it comes to "work knives" like the Para and Millie. Try pulling out a low rider wire clipped knife from your pants in a hurry with muddy gloves on...
 
I only EDC my Delica4. Once in a while carry the SOG Trident.

A HUGE difference in deployment speeds, imo. The higher ride Delica is so easy and handy. But for me, I work in a skittish industry(s), and a deep carry option with the trade off sacrificing deployment speed is something I wouldn't mind having the option for.
 
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