Regarding the above two statements, could you please show a scan of those documents or refer us to documents that we could look at, Ken? I have not been able to find anything like either statement in my research.
Now back to the 8OT, this is a knife I would like to known more about. Schrade lists the 8OT in 1961 as sold by the doz to Dealers - why do they list them as "Individually Boxed" in 1963, with the 2OT and not before? Individually boxed is what the customer recieved. I think the Old Timers were deemed a special knife, and individually gift boxed wasn't as common as it became soon after they came out with Old Timers. An old Timer or Uncle Henry was always individually boxed (or maybe put in a tube) with literature and sharpening instructions. If it wasn't expressed on every piece of marketing literature, it's because someone didn't write it, but I believe each one did come with a box.
Why did Schrade show the first 8OT with the other shied? in some of their listings and flyers. Very few examples have been produced with the oval shield. I think they illustrated them that way, did a few and then switched to the rectangular OLD TIMER shield. If you look at knife illustrations in many of the old catalogs. They did not update the illustrations for many years, even after they changed the design.