The Para 2 lock stick

00ChevyScott

00ChevyScott

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The s90v para 2 I just picked up has a decent amount of lock stick. Has someone found a legitimate fix for this yet? Also is this something I could send in to Spyderco CS to have fixed professionally? Already adjusted the pivot and turned the blade stop as well.

Edit: I have ready plenty of these threads but never found a good answer.
 
Use. That is the only thing that really helped my sticky lock. With a lot (read: thousands) of openings, it'll get better.
 
My G10 para 2 has been opened and closed 1000+ times and it got marginally better but its not near as smooth as my brother and laws new all black para 2. I've deff been trying to work out the lock on the s90v since I got it. Hope it starts to smooth out soon though. My thumb hurts Haha.
 
I feel your pain. When I first got my satin Para 2, it was really bad. My index finger developed a callus from closing the darn thing. Then, it was seriously tough and borderline intolerable. Now it is definitely manageable, but not as nice as my original Para.
 
So this isn't something Spyderco's customer service can fix? I'm fine with trying to let it wear in if I have to, but I don't think I'd ever get it to where the newer models are at as far as smoothness. I'd imagine if Spyderco knew what was wrong and fixed the problem in the design for the newer models, they could remedy it on the older ones? But that's just an assumption.
 
Well, you know what they say about when you assume. I have a total of 11 Paramilitary knives, 4 of the original and 7 of the newer models. I think I am extremely lucky, because none of mine, not a one has a sticky lock. Could you post a macro shot of the lock up on yur new Para2? It's not a design flaw, if it was they would be selling the knives like hotcakes, not with a flaw that big.
 
RevDevil said:
Well, you know what they say about when you assume. I have a total of 11 Paramilitary knives, 4 of the original and 7 of the newer models. I think I am extremely lucky, because none of mine, not a one has a sticky lock. Could you post a macro shot of the lock up on yur new Para2? It's not a design flaw, if it was they would be selling the knives like hotcakes, not with a flaw that big.
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It's a pretty common problem with the Paramilitary knives. I've seen plenty of complaints about it all over this board and others. And I'm not sure how macro shots would help diagnose it.
 
Didn't say I would diagnose it with a picture, just wondering if the lock up is late, early, centered, etc. I don't doubt that there are a few that might be sticky, but a lot of cases have been related to "weak fingers" or awkward hand positioning in trying to close it. Much like the purported cases of people being injured by a opening hole. :)
 
RevDevil said:
Didn't say I would diagnose it with a picture, just wondering if the lock up is late, early, centered, etc. I don't doubt that there are a few that might be sticky, but a lot of cases have been related to "weak fingers" or awkward hand positioning in trying to close it. Much like the purported cases of people being injured by a opening hole. :)
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I've used a para 2 with a "good" lock (my brother in laws). It's not a problem with a "weak" finger or improper closing technique. The lock IS sticking, or frozen if that helps you imagine it. It requires a LOT of force to break it free and then it snaps to the side quickly.
 
Has anyone tried the pencil-lead trick (like with problem lock-bars on a Ti Frame lock)? Just curious - I've never experienced a sticky lock with a compression lock, but I would guess that something like graphite from a pencil lead would help.
 
EZ Bake said:
Has anyone tried the pencil-lead trick (like with problem lock-bars on a Ti Frame lock)? Just curious - I've never experienced a sticky lock with a compression lock, but I would guess that something like graphite from a pencil lead would help.
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Hmm it may, but I'm not sure if the sticking problem is where it meets the blade tang or the blade stop pin. It'd be easy to get graphite on the tang but getting it on the stop pin may prove to be more difficult. I'm not sure how well it'd work but it's worth a shot.


EDIT: Used a mechanical pencil and getting graphite on the blade stop pin seems to have definitely helped! My fingers are pretty sore from a day full of messing with the knife already unfortunately haha.
 
Mine was the same way, even though it started out fine. it got to an unbearable point that almost required 2 hands to disengage the lock. I kept at it, and would clean it periodically. now it's perfect, doesn't stick at all.

I guess it's just a matter of an extended break in. I think that cleaning it definitely helps, and I found that lubing the lock surface actually made it worse.
 
Both of my Para2's have sticky locks, none of my many Para 1's had them.

But it doesn't bother me one bit. It's a solid knife.
 
00ChevyScott said:
Since using graphite on the stop pin helped on mine, I wonder if it'd help to polish the stop pin?
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The graphite is a lubricant which let's it not be sticky but it actually delays the knife from breaking in. The only real way to break it in is to use it. That will let the parts mate together and polish the contact points. It might be possible to take it apart and hand polish the parts but I doubt it works as good as just using it, though it may speed things up.
 
My S90V Para 2 is very sticky, using a sharpie marker on it helps but I mostly just got used to it. My ATR is the same, while my brother's 20-CP Para is buttery smooth. It's just hit and miss I guess.
 
Joshua J. said:
My S90V Para 2 is very sticky, using a sharpie marker on it helps but I mostly just got used to it. My ATR is the same, while my brother's 20-CP Para is buttery smooth. It's just hit and miss I guess.
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Have you tried putting some graphite on the stop pin? Use a mechanical pencil and get some graphite on the bottom of.the pin. It helped a ton on mine.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
The graphite is a lubricant which let's it not be sticky but it actually delays the knife from breaking in. The only real way to break it in is to use it. That will let the parts mate together and polish the contact points. It might be possible to take it apart and hand polish the parts but I doubt it works as good as just using it, though it may speed things up.
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What's the problem with delaying the break-in process on a compression lock? Its not as if it doesn't work as well when its not sticking - provided the liner moves in between the stop-pin and tang enough to make for a solid lock-up, it should be fine.

I guess I don't see the down side.
 
I have an all black para 2 that had a very sticky lock. I made a post and a CrimsonTideShooter let me in on some helpful info.

He said that basically if ANY oil gets on the tang where the two locking surfaces meet it makes it stick very badly. Just wipe the tang clean every day or when ever you feel it start sticking again. Also using graphite after wiping it helps too.

I know you dont have a DLC coated para thats sticking, but I was desperately searching for a fix and this helped ALOT.

link to my thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ck-problem?highlight=paramilitary+sticky+lock
 
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