The Proposed Kit

Don Rearic said:
If you can requisition survival gear or anything using NSNs...

In this article you can find the water carrier the military has used in survival kits since Vietnam. They should still have them. It is: Water Bag, Drinking 8465-01-634-4499
Click to expand...

Unfortunately, I'm not in a "real" unit...more of a corporate office:barf: I have seen that particular drinking bag and it's well made, same as you observed (good article BTW). I must concede that I really like County Comm's Aqua bags; they can be carried over the shoulder with some 550-cord, they have markings for measuring when using a water purification tablet, Polar Pure, etc. and I've one had folded up for over a year and no crease tears or holes. Plus, 100mph (duct) tape makes great seal if needed. They are much like the Platypus containers and I've had a few of those for several years...quite robust.

I'll have to borrow my wife's camera for this trip since my mother-in-law found mine in Alabama after our trip down there and I forgot it...unless she finds those dirty pictures:D

We'll have to both post up our kits when we get them completed...I'll have my HPG Kit Bag and I'm working on my one waist pack (Octa Versipack)...

ROCK6
 
I personally think its always good to have something you can use for digging, such as a small gardening shovel, small to med size machete, or even that trail hawk head sounds great. There's lots of roots that are useful or if you have to dig for water, you don't want to use one of your good knifes for poking around in the dirt. Also Cold Steel makes a collapsible 5' blow gun, which I think its perfect for a pack and great bringing in small game which I prefer over carrying a .22. In my main bag I also keep a small molle bag that has all the essentials to survive and I keep where I can get to it first in case I have to move fast and leave my main bag.
 
looks like a well thought out list :)

I'd echo the suggestions of a poncho/tarp- rain gear and shelter in one fell swoop, the silnylon ones are as light as 8 oz and pack small (room permitting)

I'd skip the oven bags- too easy to damage, a platypus rolls up small and is light, not fragile either; the one mentioned by Rock6 would be a solid choice as well

I think you can skip the large water filter personally, tablets will kill everything and you can't get any more compact or lighter- it's all I take backpacking anymore

if room in the pack- a few clothing items- gloves, hat and a light insulating layer

if possible a metal container (mug/small pot) would definitely be handy- again room permitting
 
I have enough of that stuff to more than fill my Spec-Ops T.H.E. Pack. (I hate that name, hahaha!) What I am trying to do is whittle away at stuff. I totally agree that cookware and things like that are must-have items. What I am attempting to do is find my happy medium between a common "PSK" and a backpack full of stuff.

I am going to check out the CountyComm Aqua Bags, those sound like the perfect solution to the problem at hand. :)
 
Unless I read it wrong, your initial post said you didn't have a pack/bag/box picked out yet, so it's a bit difficult to assess your kit for your needs w/o knowing the size you want to keep it to (why I suggested the sustainment pouch).

I'm also at a loss as to what purpose this is for. Is it just a "what can I get away with?" exercise, a car bag, an office bag, what is it to be prepared for, etc?

Oh, and the tomahawk suggestion wasn't entirely for chopping wood. Knowing the "problems" some States have with guns, it's interesting how many places it's illegal to carry a gun, but not illegal to go all "Last of the Mohicans".
 
Cpl Punishment said:
Unless I read it wrong, your initial post said you didn't have a pack/bag/box picked out yet, so it's a bit difficult to assess your kit for your needs w/o knowing the size you want to keep it to (why I suggested the sustainment pouch).

I'm also at a loss as to what purpose this is for. Is it just a "what can I get away with?" exercise, a car bag, an office bag, what is it to be prepared for, etc?

Oh, and the tomahawk suggestion wasn't entirely for chopping wood. Knowing the "problems" some States have with guns, it's interesting how many places it's illegal to carry a gun, but not illegal to go all "Last of the Mohicans".
Click to expand...

I think Don is considering the Hill People's Gear (HPG) chest-mounted Kit Bag. It's pretty flat with no outside MOLLE attachments. This is the kind of kit that augments your pack, but can be a short term stand-alone for the majority of circumstances. It's not designed to accommodate all the "essentials", but provides enough flexibility to improvise and you ultimately have to accept the compromise due to size, situations and activities. I'm doing a little backpacking later this afternoon for a couple days; however, when we get to where we'll set up camp, I plan to use my chest Kit Bag as a recon kit around camp (some planned activities) and day hikes. Water is always an issue during the higher temps/humidity here in GA, so I'm considering a pull-out Camelback from my main pack with simple shoulder straps to wear as a stand-alone. Either that or just a simple Rolly Polly that can be attached to the belt and carry my water bottle. It's an evolution, but the more you add the more cumbersome these types of kits become...maybe it's an evolution in compromise :D

KitBag-1.jpg


KitBag-2.jpg


KitBag-4.jpg


KitBag-3.jpg


KitBag-7.jpg


KitBag-5.jpg


KitBag-6.jpg


ROCK6
 
^ that looks like a pretty nice little "pack" :)

one other to look at for something between a PSK and a "regular" pack is the water bottle holders- w/ a little planning the hold a fair amount of kit, but still pretty small/light- nice long thread on them highlighting all kinds of ways to set them up
 
I'm hoping that weight-wise, the stuff I want to put into the HPG Kit Bag won't make it sag or otherwise be uncomfortable. Considering it is designed to carry basic gear along with a handgun and a magazine or two, it should be OK. Unless I move to a place where I can carry the handgun in it, then I would probably have to pare down the items more. :)
 
Cpl Punishment said:
Unless I read it wrong, your initial post said you didn't have a pack/bag/box picked out yet, so it's a bit difficult to assess your kit for your needs w/o knowing the size you want to keep it to (why I suggested the sustainment pouch).
Click to expand...

I was being a bit murky but as Rock6 pointed out, all along, I had the HPG Kit Bag in my mind.

He outed me! So much for the whole, "Don't ask, don't tell" thing, huh? :D

I have most of the suggested stuff and that goes into a backpack. I'm right there with all of that commentary that has been offered up. It's true and correct, it's right. I should have been a little more clear or just come out with the idea about the HPG Kit Bag concept.

That type of rig solves a lot of problems. If I get tired of carrying it there (chest), I can have a strap like goes on a Medic Bag and sling it.
 
K, gotcha.

I'm still hung up on the water thing, though. Sure you can't have a real water container with the kit?
 
If someone would make an aluminum version of the WW2 two-piece (plastic) canteen survival kit container, that would work! It would be flat. :D
 
Those soda bottle tubes look like the absuloute shit! I can't believe I never heard of them...I want some badly now, looks like the ultimate Dry container for BOBs and camping bags. I personally thank you for this thread if for no other reason then the tubes.






I have also been assembling a smaller ''skit N git'' bag, my BOB setup is quite bulky, and I like the idea of a lighter weight smaller pack. I will throw a thread up soon with my set-up.
 
mtwarden said:
maybe something like this?? you could also store quite a bit in it

MessTinWHandle.new.Comp.w.jpg
Click to expand...

Those types of mess kits are great! I just wouldn't want it banging and clanging around on my chest with something like this.

Now, if you go with a shoulder bag type of carrier, all of the sudden I would definitely have one.

thrillbilly said:
Those soda bottle tubes look like the absuloute shit! I can't believe I never heard of them...I want some badly now, looks like the ultimate Dry container for BOBs and camping bags. I personally thank you for this thread if for no other reason then the tubes.

I have also been assembling a smaller ''skit N git'' bag, my BOB setup is quite bulky, and I like the idea of a lighter weight smaller pack. I will throw a thread up soon with my set-up.
Click to expand...

They are awesome. I wish someone would carry the pre-forms for the wide mouth ONE-liter bottles. Now 1-liter bottles have the regular sized mouth on them. A couple years ago when you purchased Pepsi Products, they had a huge wide mouth on their 1-liter bottles. THAT would have been incredible. I don't think it would have taken the place of pre-forms like these, but they would have had their place in The Grand Scheme of Gear. :D
 
the best ive found for keeping my kit in is a smaller, metal coffee can with a snap on lid...the ones that are about 4" wide and 8" tall. they hold a lot of gear and if you punch some holes in the inside lip for a piece of wire, they make a container you can boil water in. ill try to get some pics of mine tomorrow.
 
Don Rearic said:
Those types of mess kits are great! I just wouldn't want it banging and clanging around on my chest with something like this.

Now, if you go with a shoulder bag type of carrier, all of the sudden I would definitely have one.
Click to expand...

if packed carefully on the inside and secured w/ a wider ranger band on the outside, probably no banging/clanging :D
 
That's true, I just don't know about the practicality of having that thing on my chest. :D

I grew up using old USGI and BSA mess kits and I love them! In regular packs or shoulder bags, they are, to me, excellent and necessary pieces of gear. But in something like this, not so much. :)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top