The Queen wobble.

In any case:

Give the pin a firm bop with a 2oz hammer

Works every time - you might wrap the bolster in leather for a bit of protection

The vice squeeze trick works also, but it risks bending the pin, making things rather worse

No reason to bend the pin. If it's getting bent, it's being squeezed way too hard.

Put the knife between a couple blocks of fairly soft wood, like pine, in the vice. Add some cloth or leather to protect the finish on the bolsters. The wood will cushion the pin ends enough, so it doesn't bend. If squeezed REAL hard (don't want to do that), the pin ends would just protrude from the bolsters a bit, and push into the wood.

I use a small PanaVise (hobby vise), with plastic inserts in the jaws. The plastic serves the same function. The small(ish) vise, with it's short handle, also aids in not squeezing too hard. Doesn't take much at all to gently squeeze the bolsters together, and minimize the risk of damage at the same time.
 
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I never did ask him why the hammer and not the vice, but the reason I say hammer is that I used to use vice and a rather well-respected Sheffield cutler said don't use the vice, use the hammer :) I ain't arguing with him

I think it might be (and I am guessing crazily here) that the hammer blow (blows) will peen the pin.

I'll go ask :D
 
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Hey guys! I don't want to get this thread too far off-track and get called out for it, but I've got a couple questions regarding the tightening of loose blades. I'll post it over in the Maintenance, Tinkering, & Embellishment sub-forum. Please head over and share your wisdom & experiences.
 
I never did ask him why the hammer and not the vice, but the reason I say hammer is that I used to use vice and a rather well-respected Sheffield cutler said don't use the vice, use the hammer :) I ain't arguing with him

I think it might be (and I am guessing crazily here) that the hammer blow (blows) will peen the pin.

I'll go ask :D

Yes, agreed. :thumbup:

I've used the vise to squeeze few of mine, and ideally, if the pins do protrude a bit, the experts do say it's a good idea to peen the ends afterward (assuming nickel pins; hardened stainless pins might be more challenging).
 
That´s bad to hear. I thought already about buying a Queen knife. But I have to order it from the US with all the customs it gets nearly as expensive as I would buy it here in Germany (not many are available). But now I think, I won´t buy such a knife. I´ve a couple of Case knives, none has a wobble. The Carl Schlieper don´t have it.

Kind regards
Andi
 
Andi - nearly all the posts here say blade wobble isn't a problem with Queen.

I take your point about the prices, and I love Schlieper's like anyone else, and am envious that you can pop to Solingen and go get one if you like. As to Case though, I got to say that Queen make a way better knife than Case.
 
I haven't seen a brand (American or German) that won't occasionally have a little movement. We probably need to define "wobble" to be on the same page. Many define it as holding the knife in one hand and the tip of the blade between the thumb and forefinger and moving back and forth to discern a slight movement. If that is your definition, then most brands will bat about 20%+ with "wobble"; except maybe GEC because they peen their joints tight and use a heavier backspring to overcome the imposed resistance (which is why the main complaint about GEC's are their nailbreaker character).

The difference in experience is more likely due to the owner, not the knife. Folks that have been collecting for 15+ years many times don't notice issues that were not issues when they started collecting. If a joint has a gap that allows the blade to move freely, that is what wobble used to be. Now, it is any discernible forced movement. I see this issue the most on lockbacks; because their backspring is more of a lockbar than a spring. Thus, the makers shim the joint to allow for free flow of the blade; otherwise it needs to be pushed open/closed. But, for production companies that use human hands for assembly, getting a knife perfectly tuned with no side movement but that will still freely snap open/closed is very time consuming. It would be great if every knife had both, but I expect it boils down to the economy of the process.

To be able to tune every knife to your own preferences all you need is a soft buffing wheel, a cratex wheel, a butter knife, and a small ball peen hammer (with the small side cut into a V). Put the back bolster on a piece of wood (or anvil if you don't mind a little more buffing in the end) and tap the top bolster with the flat hammer until you get the action you want. If you exposed pins use the V side to spread them out (peen) to hold position. If too tight you can cut the edge of the butter knife in half and quasi-sharpen the rest of it; then pinch it between the liner and tang by closing the blade on it until you get the action you want. Cratex off the protruding pins and scars from hammer, then buff to a mirror shine. This will cost $50 or so to get started but deliver your exact preference for a lifetime. It would be great if this was perfectly tuned at the factory, but not a realistic expectation for human hands on a timeline (not to say we shouldn't expect it, just to say expecting it is probably an effort in futility).

If our American / German companies could afford completely automated assembly lines then tolerances would be much tighter. But I don't expect we will see them spending millions a year to support this while making hundreds of thousands on the finished product. And if they could turn out 5000 knives a day instead of 100, I am not sure we would have the market for them anyway. At least that is my twisted opinion.
 
Noticed a slight wobble in my small Queen DB barlow. DAMN YOU BLADEFORUMS! :D

If it gets bad, I'll just send it in.
 
Well I've tightened up some of them by just using a hammer and believe it or not folded several times newspaper. Ya I still get the paper. Took the wobble out of em.
They do close with a little more effort. But I would rather have that than the blades flopping all around. Left no marks but one of the knives the pin is a little proud.
Thanks for the info guys!
 
Of the many queen folders I own, only two have blade play, so slight and have to be forced to show play, you'd have to be really picky not to use them as is.
Not bad enough to be returned and good enough to be an EDC.

Come on, these are working tools made for work. Heck, I drive Trucks & Tractors with more side to side play in the wheel, than these knives will ever have. :D

And to steal a line from silenthunterstudios: DAMN YOU BLADEFORUMS! :D
For turning me on to the joys of owning , carrying Queens knives and spoiling me with their D2 steel.

BTW The Queen Fixed blades show no play at all to date. :D
 
The main blade on my Queen amber bone Cattle King has some slight wobble, but so do many other knives I own from other manufacturers. The small bit of play doesn't bother me at all....

Ironically my Mountain Man lockback has no wobble , and it still opens really smooth.
 
I can abide by slight wobble.It doesn't bother me. The wobble I'm talking about is the kind you notice when you are cutting something. You can feel the blade shift.
I'm an executive chef and use knives all day long. They don't wobble much:D. So maybe I get a little picky when a folder moves a bit.
 
I can abide by slight wobble.It doesn't bother me. The wobble I'm talking about is the kind you notice when you are cutting something. You can feel the blade shift.
I'm an executive chef and use knives all day long. They don't wobble much:D. So maybe I get a little picky when a folder moves a bit.

I don't think any brand I own is that bad... the worst one I have is a newer production Hen and Rooster cattle knife , but you still can't feel the blade move as you cut.

The Queen knives ( IMO ) are very well made , they still have a hand finished look and I don't have a problem sharpening the D2 steel.
I have 3 in the amber bone series, the locking Mountain Man is my favorite.
 
BTW The Queen Fixed blades show no play at all to date. :D

:D:D:D

555, would you mind if I ask you your opinion on the Queen fixed blades?

I have been eyeing up the Queen Canoe fixed blade for a long time - just never got round to buying it yet. Looks kind of an ideal

How thick are the blades?
 
I have never had that issue with a Queen, they seem to be the best over all working knife in my opinion. I would send it back to them and see what they do...
 
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