The REAL Finnish Puukko....

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There are several, actually, and a regional thing as for varieties, and the puukko/knife in general a national emblem, with own museum, promoted by the state (as with all traditional hand crafts) at state supported schools......and unlike the 1960s/1970s, where handmade a dying art, and a promotional effort just starting in order to save the the art, there are now thousands of aspiring puukkoseppa vying for market attention.

This all should sound very familiar to USA readers, and likewise no suprise that this also has generated a further familiar subset, the art knife versus the traditional work knife...most makers today are concentrated on the minimalist modern art highly polished and perfectly fitted knife.

Then you have old-school such as the Kainuun Puukko and its famous Tommi style, including its long version of Winter War fame, and the style brought to national and international attention by the President of Finland (from the Kainuu region, I believe), from 1956-1982, having a Kainuun Puukko Tommi on his desk and gifting them to visitors....the style now also a nationally recognized thing, and often copied (as are all the regional styles), by makers nationwide, and now by makers literally worldwide since the explosion of knife interest in general.

The lineage of the knife style, being a regional thing, surely actually predates the recognized beginnings by perhaps even generations of influence in what works as for handle shape and blade style, but, a brief synopsis is worthwhile, in order to show the links.... The shop lineage in Hyrynsalmi, Kainuu region was (mid/late 1800s) Halle and son Setti Keränen (early 1900s-post WWII) who trained Antti (actual famous name-brand shop founder of KP-TOMMI in 1950s) and sons Olavi and Alpo Kemppainen who trained and then sold shop to Veijo Käpylä circa late 1980s/early 1990s, who trained and sold shop to Marko Lindelä circa 2010, who moved shop 130 miles east to own home town of he and wife, Oulainen.....back to the founder, Halle was the guy who left the stix of Kainuu and went to work for Fiskars in the mid-1800s at same time new smithing technology/metallurgy was being brought from England, and who studied under the English....but tired of regimented city and factory life, and went back home where he could be his normal Suomi redneck self and drink hard and swap tall tales and smith...his son was famous for the WWII knives....the successors the most famous and responsible for the style becoming recognized and copied nationwide.

As to the latest maker and owner of the shop/name, Marko is true to the heritage....he is not the art knife guy, but a maker of the famous Tommi, as well as a few other styles. His knives are working knives and even in the more finished versions of the Tommi, have no aspirations to perfection of mirror polish and seamless jointing of the art knife crowd, and PLEASE keep in mind his work is MUCH more highly finished than the work of the earlier folk who made the name famous.....he simply does as any traditional puukkoseppa, and does every scrap of it by himself (with exception of fancy/tourista/Sunday barbeque silver bolsters marked suchlike "Finland" and the animal head pommels purchased from a jewlery findings company), otherwise all brass and silver castings, sheaths and birch liners, blades hammered from round barstock of Silversteel (think O-1 Enhanced), and enough forging to reduce and distribute carbides, and 60-61 Rc type edge hardnesses....he makes the types of knives which inspire the owner to carve 2×4s into toothpicks, all day long and in complete comfort, blades which cut like blue blazes, and handle/blade design the result of uncounted generations of regional residents who needed a knife which worked, as near everything away from any city was made from birch or reindeer or moose, whether furniture, bowls, spoons, etc....they designed knives which worked...

The below photos simply and mainly highlight things for scale and contrast....firstly, to show what a difference 1/2" in blade length makes when buying a puukko.....also a quick contrast between the work of rising young knifemaker Tapio Syrjälä who apparently has gone stock removal nowadays and who does impeccable modern art work,..compared to that of a classic maker and his knife as delivered straight from Finland, and still with polishing dreck on brass and wood......also, the sophistication of lines and curves, and perhaps a visual as to why a real puukko needs no guard, the offset of curve peaks of top and bottom handle arches denying any tendency of hand to slide towards blade, and also simply that grasping too far forward simply does not feel right and hand instinctively adjusts to best hold, which also provides best leverage...... Also, this is not, obviously, a higher finished blade, the more rustic type blade a bit more expensive since it requires forging all the way to final thickness rather than to thickness sufficient for grinding to remove all trace of scale or hammer....and ALL blades forged from round bar...no shortcuts....a real puukko......and for the curious, this would be the T55 Tommi Moose model in shorter 100mm length...weight a feathery 4.3 oz bare and beltline pleasing 6 oz sheathed.....his prices for standard classic Tommipuukko circa $170-$260, depending on size....and Marko a very nice late 30s age guy with beautiful wife and growing herd of beautiful children and sole wage earner with wife in school and also new baby.....good knives and good folks....

his wait times are considerable more than the two weeks as stated in the web site he inherited from Veijo would suggest....think more like 6mths......unsure as to why website not changed except a) he speaks rudamentary english and for all i know, does not realize what pages mention the two week wait on english pages and him able to recognize what it says, b) him no manner of website guru, and c) bumper crop family leaves little funds to pay a website guru, and d) too busy making knives and taking care of family to mess with it all...anyhow, email first and find out wait times.....also, several retailers carry the knives, i noted thenovicewoodsman has better prices than you could get after $30 Finnish privitized post











ps- simply a personal note, if not obvious from above text....i consider these knives about the finest true working knife a guy or gal could ever hope to own, and the prices from any of the good smiths are incredibly low considering the handwork and quality of work....and strongly urge anyone and everyone to own at least one..
 
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I appreciate the replies, guys. In this day and age of near every gun and knife advertised as a murder weapon, it is refreshing to own and use knives designed and made to be as first ever knives from the first piece of chipped rock.....as a daily tool....

In general, folks try unsuccessfully to use the murder weapons as daily tools, and they just fall short, as they must, to any knife designed to be a true useful tool in the hand, rather than specialized designated sternum or even log splitter forced into daily driving....it is like using a HumVee as an inner city commuter and bragging how practical it is....and I am as guilty as any of being that HumVee driver.
 
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As to the latest maker and owner of the shop/name, Marko is true to the heritage....he is not the art knife guy, but a maker of the famous Tommi, as well as a few other styles. His knives are working knives and even in the more finished versions of the Tommi, have no aspirations to perfection of mirror polish and seamless jointing of the art knife crowd, and PLEASE keep in mind his work is MUCH more highly finished than the work of the earlier folk who made the name famous.....he simply does as any traditional puukkoseppa, and does every scrap of it by himself (with exception of fancy/tourista/Sunday barbeque silver bolsters marked suchlike "Finland" and the animal head pommels purchased from a jewlery findings company), otherwise all brass and silver castings, sheaths and birch liners, blades hammered from round barstock of Silversteel (think O-1 Enhanced), and enough forging to reduce and distribute carbides, and 60-61 Rc type edge hardnesses....he makes the types of knives which inspire the owner to carve 2×4s into toothpicks, all day long and in complete comfort, blades which cut like blue blazes, and handle/blade design the result of uncounted generations of regional residents who needed a knife which worked, as near everything away from any city was made from birch or reindeer or moose, whether furniture, bowls, spoons, etc....they designed knives which worked...

High fit and finish is not exclusive to the "art knife crowd" as you put it. Nor does it negatively affect a knife's function.. I appreciate it when a smith puts his effort into making the best knife he can, fit and finish included. It does add to the cost of a knife, and not everyone is willing to pay the added price.

It is wonderful that there are so many puukkoseppa making knives these days. It makes it much easier to find someone who'll make the puukko you want, whether it has a high polish or a more workmanlike finish.

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Kamagong, I in no manner said they were mutually exclusive, but there is no denying the entire emphasis has changed in western market driven knives as art rather than knives as tools or weapons, in going for the high roller buyer. One has only to look at what is winning prizes or pushed by major publications now using specialized knife photography as its own trade now, to see this push....not to mention all the knives now purchased as "investments", rather than daily tools....and the snob bashing evaluations of any knives not meeting reviewer/owner/investor ideas of knife perfection.......

and in the puukko world, of the 1950s/1960s, the Kainuun Tommi knife became famous because it was seen then as simply the best puukko that money could buy...nothing has changed much in the shop product, while the emphasis on what is important has changed, when folk buy knives for how they look, far more than for how they cut, or how safe and comfortable the handle is, and many destined to never cut a thing, and whose main function is to pose for photos on internet sites, photos of which strive to copy the advertising photos which got the buyer to purchase them in the first place. I have watched this shift from the 1960s into the present, worldwide, and what is pushed is art, not performance....and to this end, many of the "promoted" makers outsource all manner of things, whether castings on puukko or engraving and sheaths on bowies fit for royalty.

One puukkosepa said it best when he stated something along the lines of his knives being meant to be tools....not meant to be microscope proof....and this extends to knifemaking in the entire west today....and it is very refreshing to buy a knife meant to be used.
 
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No one speaks of performance blades more than myself but to call people who place a high level of merit on excellent fit and finish snobs is not fair in the least

In today's knife world you can have it all

High performance and excellent fit and finish

I agree that a lot of the pieces being made today are not performance designed but to call those that admire them snobs is unfair
 
the puukko I have is absolutely functional, and I would put it up against almost any other for comparison. it's also absolutely stunningly beautiful, craftsmanship and f&f is second to none. a knife can be beautiful and functional in my opinion.
 
Joe, there is no denying there is the wealthy snob appeal of the art knife collector rather than knife user, and it is often quite blatant...the mine is better than yours mentality of the collector of any art....especially when seen through the eyes of primarily the investor hoping (mainly vainly) for a later return on the droves they own.....and that angle pushed heavily in order to "promote" the investment....and often meaning others are not "descriminating" enough....."knives for the descriminating collector" an undercurrent in every conversation about the knives, and often not even an undercurrent.....this all opposed to the guy who saves precious pennies to buy the best knife he can afford...

Meanwhile, the thread supposedly about Marko and not art collectors getting in a huff....
 
the puukko I have is absolutely functional, and I would put it up against almost any other for comparison. it's also absolutely stunningly beautiful, craftsmanship and f&f is second to none. a knife can be beautiful and functional in my opinion.

see above "Kamadog, I in no way said that they are mutually exclusive" comment....and also the "this thread supposed to be about Marko" part.

or.....you guys just take it and run with it.....I will close by saying Marko makes a helluva classic...and the original firm's style and not a copy of the same, even from the best art knife guy....
 
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To gain respect around here it would serve you better when promoting something to not insult people in the process

The knife world is full of many

Some collect and some use

None deserve more respect than the other

As for the puukko's you posted they look very nice and I am sure they are great tools

I am a huge proponent of the user blade and have stressed that point for over a decade on here

I like what you have to say and I'm just trying to be helpful
 
...the entire emphasis has changed in western market driven knives as art rather than knives as tools or weapons, in going for the high roller buyer.

I think you paint the picture with too broad a brush. One need only look at folks like Bill Bagwell or Ed Fowler to find knives made as purpose driven tools.

Have the standards of knife making increased in the past fifty years? Without a doubt. Makers like Kainuun or Randall may have sat atop the mountain in the Fifties and Sixties, but that is no longer the case. They still make excellent knives, but they are not necessarily considered to be the "best" currently available.

The Kallioniemi shown above is hardly an art knife, but it won gold at the Fiskars competition a few years back -- championship class, user knife category. It has superlative fit and finish.

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At the time of purchase I paid less than the price of a KP. Incredible bang for the buck.

Meanwhile, the thread supposedly about Marko and not art collectors getting in a huff....

There's the rub. It was a bit unclear from your title.
 
All the glamour photoshopped pics started shortly after few bladesmiths attended US knife shows and then organized the Helsinki knife show. US knife market is currently the biggest and obviously some makers prefers to uniform themself to the stylish/magazine pics crew. Thankfully there are plenty that are not really interested in knife shows and just aim to craft practical tools.

One puukkosepa said it best when he stated something along the lines of his knives being meant to be tools....not meant to be microscope proof.

This was said by Pasi Hurttila of ivalo.

Anyway, back on topic, let's see some field comparison of the two puukkos. For what their different sizes permit.
 
I am very fond of these knives. I am on the lookout for a Kainuun Puukko if you guys know anyone that has one for sale. I would like to find one of the AK,OK, VK stamped models. I just posted a wanted ad in the exchange section of this forum with my contact info. Every now and then one pops up here or there but I havent managed to find it in time.

I think you paint the picture with too broad a brush. One need only look at folks like Bill Bagwell or Ed Fowler to find knives made as purpose driven tools.

Have the standards of knife making increased in the past fifty years? Without a doubt. Makers like Kainuun or Randall may have sat atop the mountain in the Fifties and Sixties, but that is no longer the case. They still make excellent knives, but they are not necessarily considered to be the "best" currently available.

The Kallioniemi shown above is hardly an art knife, but it won gold at the Fiskars competition a few years back -- championship class, user knife category. It has superlative fit and finish.

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At the time of purchase I paid less than the price of a KP. Incredible bang for the buck.



There's the rub. It was a bit unclear from your title.[/QUOTE
 
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