I commented in another thread,recently,about carrying more than one means of firestarting. Well,later that same day I went to show somebody my magnesium/ferro stick,which hangs on my keys on my belt. Surprise,the ferro part is gone. No biggie,if it had been a situation ,I could've used my minibic. Two days later, I go to actually use the mini bic to heat some plastic and it ain't working. I should mention I don't use the bic for anything. Again if it had been a situation I still had my Boy Scout hot spark on my SAK Explorer. If I had been outside ,my parka pockets have a big firesteel and a handful of fatwood. At least it was there last time I looked,who knows,with the way the gremlins are lining up.