The Sheeple are at it again!!!!!!!!!!

I am incensed! I am not a vioilent person, don't condone unnecessary violence, and aviod it if at all possible.

I am also a knife knut. I carry, usually, a different knife everyday. I love my knives. I use them for many things, but at the office, just to open my mail, etc...

Well, someone on my team, and I am not sure just who yet, must have some personal vendetta against me. Whomever, must have seen the horribly intimmidating Kershaw Blackout that I was opening my mail with last week, and spoke with my supervisor!

She and I had a talk about it this morning, we discussed knife laws, self defense rationalization, etc... and I informed her of my exhaustive knowledge of knife/weapon legalities, and that what I was, and am carrying, is perfectly legal in all respects in my location. She asked if she could see it, if I was indeed carrying it, and I was so I said, sure, of course. I opened it out of site of her, because I didn't want to intimidate here in an already bad situation, and then I handed it to her. She is NOT a knife person, in here 50's, and even she said there doesn't seem to be anything threatening about that. She gave it back to me and all was ok.

I don't know where people get off!! I mind my own f****n business, don't bother anyone, am extremely professional, very helpfull and willing, etc... I am NOT gloating, but I don't yet know who it is that has the bug up their a**. But, I will find out. Sure, I will be professional, but this MF'er better never ask for my assistance with anything at all, period, once I find out who this individual is! The nerve of some people. I don't evey carry any of my auot's into work; I am sure that would shock the sh*t out of anyone here, and that is not my purpose.

What do you all think? I am truly insulted and incensed. I am a professional, and act that way no matter what the circumstance. I am 34 years old, and have been carrying a knive since I was 16. Like Austin Powers says, "Spectacles (contacts for me), testacles, wallet, and watch... (and for me, knife)...and so on.... for those who know what I am talking about.

I am truly offended, and feel like just going home. I don't need this kind of sh*t!

Let me know your opinions.

Thanks for letting me rant and rave...

Ciao,

Lundo


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Sounds like you should buy your supervisor a cup of coffe, at least she has good judgement.

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I think you have a right to be mad, but your situation leads to an observation. Your experience with your co-worker shows just how much non-knive people fear even the most non-descript knives. Your reaction, however, was intelligent. You responded by educating her instead of getting mad. I think more knife people need to tone down our carry habits (or at least what we take in mixed company)and we need to be more willing to educate people anout the law concerning knives and their usefulness. Flashing an AFCK or a Sifu and saying its my right does nothing to bridge the gaps in perception of knives among non-knife people.
 
Hey!

Sorry to hear about the bad luck, i understand that you're feeling bad.

When you do find who told your supervisor i think that it would be better to explain politely and to continue offer help and what not, i think that the person will realize that you're a great guy and that he/she was wrong.
If you dismiss the person and refuse to help him/her out then you've given him/her right "oh yeah, he's carrrying murderknives and now he refuses to help me, just what i expected from such a person"

But also make sure that you tell him/her that it's not his/her business what you carry, and if there's something else that bothers him/her about you then just ask.

Just my 0.003 cents...
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Good luck, and do remember, we, your knifefriends are out here
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Lundo,

I understand your disgust and would go nuts if something like that happened. We have to remember not to let our anger show. That just adds to the perception that this "odd" person who likes knives is even more odd and spooky. Good luck.

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I'm with you Lundo-
It's happened to me in my office a couple of times.
I don't open boxes, packages, cut string, etc. for ANYONE at work anymore.
keep a Low Profile & let 'em struggle...


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Tough luck Lundo! I meet lots of people here who easily gets freaked out at the sight of a knive - even a look on a folder's clip can result in an unecessary remark. But I don't fight these folks. They need to be educated. Well, that's how I feel.

Sam

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I agree with Anthony on being discreet to a point. Nobody would feel comfortable around a co-worker who was juggling a pair of SIFU's. On the other hand look what we put up with and keep our mouths shut so we can be "PC". Does anyone complain to the supervisor when Jane Doe comes in with her tounge pierced? Perhaps the way society is destroying itself socially is more dangerous than a Kershaw Blackout opening an envelope in the office.
If any of you read Tactical Knives Magazine there is a great editorial about the media demonization of knives, especially tactical style models. I agree with the editor that many more lives have been taken with a paring knife than "tactical knives" any day of the week. Pretty soon we will only be allowed to eat with "Sporks"
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Ah, liberal trash....you can't get away from them, and, as of yet, hunting them is illegal.
Thankfully, my coworkers and supervisors don't have a problem with knives. Some of them get me to sharpen theirs, and I've gotten a few of them interested in buying more than "cheapie" knives.
Most of them own firearms, too, and are not bothered by the sight of a knife.

I also think you handled the situation quite well - better than I would have, to tell the truth
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I'm glad that at least things worked out and you weren't asked to leave your "weapons" at home.

It could've been worse as well. Many companies, especially in the corporate setting where most of my experience has been, have policies against firearms and knives (any knife, no matter how innocent) on premises or on work time (even in your own car) that can get someone sh#tcanned in a situation like yours. My co-workers have seen my BM705, but that's it. Everything else stays out of sight.

Truth is, I wouldn't work in an environment where I couldn't have at least a small blade. Even turned down a position counseling prison inmates several years ago because of my review of their guidelines.

I'm with the other guys. Don't "let it get wierd" as Dr. Evil would say, just ignore their ignorance and educate those that will listen, as it sounds you've done a fine job in doing (though you probably could've left the self-defense part out
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Professor.
 
You guys are great! I just don't understand people. Gheesh! I am a professional man. I develop software for a major national bank. I'm privy to so much sensitive information you wouldn't believe it.

This whole situation disgusts me. I don't even want to get into politics and who is voting for who this coming September, but, I think you guys are with me in knowing who knows what's what.

Thanks for all the kind words.

Hey Kark of SOFKnives, I'll be sending you a check soon.!

Thanks,

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Sporks !!!!!!

I love it ! I had used a similar example in a thread and said "sharpened popsicle sticks", but how silly of me - we couln't sharpen them, could we.

Comrade Chang, if you're out there, let's see one of your "Tac-Spork" prototypes !

 
It's not a surprising reaction to displays of knives. While most are comfortable with knive in the kitchen, I feel the great majority are ill at ease with displays in public and the workplace - especially in these days of "everything is a bad weapon" and zero tolarance. But try to understand that knives have traditionally been villified as the weapon of the thug, bad guy, definitly not the gentleman type. As far as liberals being the problem I think you need to expand the horizon and undertand that many anti-knife laws (especially here in the southwest) were passed to disposses certain ethnic groups or socio-economic challenged from having weapons not from the left but by the right. I think you can say with much justification that the current anti-weapon movement is fueled from both the left and right for their own reasons. Too bad but that's where we're at. I try to educate all who will listen that knives are tools and good for us.
 
Lundo, you did good. You kept your cool on the job. THIS is the place to bring it when you have to get mad out loud.

You've got a real human being for a supervisor. In every crowd, there's at least one jerk. That's what the boss is there for, to enforce reason and good sense.

On balance, this was really a good deal all around -- except for the weasel. That kind of person isn't worth spitting on.
 
You're not the only one. I am a 50 year old professional that got the same treatment at Trek Bicycles of Waterloo, Wisconsin. I encourage all knuts to buy Specialized Bikes. Salesmen there had quarterly regional meetings that 'over served' alcohol, which offended me, yet threw a royal hissy fit over clip-knives. I disagree that this is a modern day, normal business policy. If you called a minority worker into the office, and told him that any characteristic offended the employees at large, there would be a counter suit. I'm white, I vote, and I like knives, which are legal. Yet, there is a letter of reprimand in my personnel file...--OKG
 
We are discussing this very topic over in the Balisong forum. As I see it, the problem is the uninitiated see knifes as weapons not tools. Anyone who carries a knife must be a bad guy who is up to something.

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Originally posted by Lundo:
I don't know where people get off!! I mind my own f****n business, don't bother anyone, am extremely professional, very helpfull and willing, etc... I am NOT gloating, but I don't yet know who it is that has the bug up their a**. But, I will find out. Sure, I will be professional, but this MF'er better never ask for my assistance with anything at all, period, once I find out who this individual is! The nerve of some people. I don't evey carry any of my auot's into work; I am sure that would shock the sh*t out of anyone here, and that is not my purpose.
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Hey Lundo, your righteous indignation is fully justified, since people should mind their own business if what you're doing doesn't affect their lives. This is a general rule which perhaps someday society will recognize as such.

But I think you're so mad only because you haven't encountered this much. This attitudes PREVAILS in our modern world. I myself indulge in thoughts, activities and behaviors, which are often not up to spec with the Propriety Committee's guidelines. And I'm not talking about tatoos or wild hair. Just simple things, simple suggestions for how to change, or not caring about things that aren't worth caring about.

And what happens? People have a vestigial attitude from their days as a toddler: What they think of the world is how it should be. Toddlers have tantrums; adults are merely more patient. They complain, and manipulate, rather than seeking outright destruction (although many do this too).

But this ignorance is only fear, and a lack of willingness to permit their model of life to alter. Believe it or not, the same tendency exists in you, as in most of us. Even the "rebels" who fight so ardently, are but examples in negative of the same phenomenon.

Seething demonstrates that you yourself believe the rest of the world should be just. They're not, so it makes you angry. Well, *their* image of the world is that it shouldn't contain knives, and yet you do, so it makes *them* angry. Don't you see? Your indignation may be more virtuous, but the underlying mechanism is the same. We want everybody to play by our tune.

We do what we want anyway, and fight if the oppression is too unjust. That seems right to us. But they also do what they want, and fight if the threat is too great. The only way this cycle can ever break is if those who are most conscious of it study the real meaning of freedom: That the idiocy of morons is none of OUR business.

Don't know if this helps, but perhaps seeing that your anger is practically the same thing in a more virtuous setting will lead to better understanding you two.
 
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