The Slightly Mad CG FBM Experiment... With Pix...

rtiger2 said:
I thought INFI:eek:Doesn't:confused:chip????:confused::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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rtiger2, I don't believe that I used the word "chip", and for a reason... There are no chips, where the metal snapped away from the blade, INFI seems to be a steel that can absorb some shock, and only dent or roll instead of outright chipping away, allowing easier mainenance to the edge. There is a spot or 2 that seems to have dented or most likely rolled a little bit to one side, and was most likely then shorn off with continued hard use, but there is nothing that will be permanent after a new edge is ground. I've already removed about 20% of the 'damage' with 15-20 swipes to each side using a common kitchen knife steel rod sharpener! Please remember that I got in close for the images too, and you're seeing the edge bigger than life for examination purposes. Tyrkon Lawson is right, mine will be restored to duty in no time. I'd like to see you choose a knife about this size and thickness from any other knife company and just hand it over to 2 roughnecks who couldn't care less about it, and see how it looks after a hard day's use. Bring the images here, & we'll compare the damage! :D :thumbup:
 
Tyrkon, did you use that Edge Pro for MORIMOTOM's? This looks to be an excellent candidate for that, and so if you say yes, I will get one... I've been putting it off, but this FBM would be perfect for practicing on. I removed a lot of the denting & rolling with just a steel, but that tip will probably need a better tool. Lemme know, cool?

I did measure the amount of tip shorn off after finally finding a ruler, LOL... It is 1/16th at the widest point, and does NOT intrude past the edge grind. :D:thumbup: ...I had stated an 1/8th inch or less in my first post, this is 50% less, give or take, than first assumed so I figure that I should state this correction for the record. :D
 
Awesome story Jaxx! It looks like she was well loved;)

Great pics and thnx for posting them:thumbup::D
 
Tony G said:
Just say no to Edge Pro... strop that bad boy:thumbup:
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Hey Tony,

Do you think that just stroppin' can restore the tip?? (in a reasonable timespan that is)??

If so stropping is mucho cheaper and gives a convex edge as a bonus...
 
Crafft said:
Hey Tony,

Do you think that just stroppin' can restore the tip?? (in a reasonable timespan that is)??

If so stropping is mucho cheaper and gives a convex edge as a bonus...
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No I don't.... But I have to wave the convex flag when ever possible:D

It maybe doable with the sand paper and mouse pad method.

Don't get me wrong an Edge-pro is well worth owning -I have one. But the more I use convex edges the more I like them and see how darn tough they are.

So yes in truth since I have an edge-pro I would use it to restore the tip since you'd have great control of the edge angle. But I wouldn't want to take the entire edge to a V grind and then have to work it back to convex.

Sorry for joking around when I shouldn't have.

 
Tony G said:
No I don't.... But I have to wave the convex flag when ever possible:D

It maybe doable with the sand paper and mouse pad method.

Don't get me wrong an Edge-pro is well worth owning -I have one. But the more I use convex edges the more I like them and see how darn tough they are.

So yes in truth since I have an edge-pro I would use it to restore the tip since you'd have great control of the edge angle. But I wouldn't want to take the entire edge to a V grind and then have to work it back to convex.

Sorry for joking around when I shouldn't have.
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:D Hey, thanxx for bringing up the convex option!! This hadn't crossed my mind yet. :D:thumbup: I may have to do that! :thumbup: ...But I think that I'll need the Edge Pro too, it's a top shear that's perpendicular to the spine, and flat across. I'd be stropping it for quite awhile I's guess, if I don't grind a little off the sides first.

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any word on how much they liked it yet? or did they just ask where they could get them.
Maybe you should have warned them you were handing them an addictive substance
 
Jaxx, you didn't tell those poor guys about the ease of INFI addiction...
they prob had the shakes the next day and never even knew why:eek:

Thanks for the story and pics!
 
Your edge grind looks really small, like less than 0.1 inch so those nicks are very small and typical of what I have seen when hitting rock or granite filled dirt. Those little nicks will sharpen right out. I have found that my highly polished edges last longer in the rough stuff than the medium grit edges that come from factory. Although the medium grit edges seem to cut better because they have that microserration effect.

good pics. Ask them how they liked it.
 
Jaxx: TonyG is right on about the "convex" being stronger. +1 for you TG. I think it matters more on a larger/heavy chopper. But I see it less important on a medium and small blade where slicing is the main use IMHO. However, I have never sustained any significant damage using an Edge Pro. I have beat on my AK pretty hard, on hard woods, and the blade is completely untouched.

But I am sharpening imapired. ;) So the Edge Pro is a nice fail safe for me. My ultimate goal is to learn how to do perfect "convex" edges and then just strop them. But for now I do the "v" grind and the strop. And the only time I have rolled my edges is a few accidental chops into my retaining wall after chopping too hard through some limbs near it.:p:o:D:thumbup:
 
LMAO, funny y'all should ask about whether or not they liked it! 2 were here yesterday, but this morning, the main guy showed up with a new helper. I asked him if he liked it, He said that he'd only used it for the thickest part of the bramble 'trunk', and it only took one swing. LOL, his partner used it the most. So I ask where he is, and the guy says that they left, went to a friend's house for some BBQ, and on the way to drop off his partner, that guy asks to be let out at a cash machine instead, that he wanted to go to a bar... Next morning, the guy bagged out all drunk. LOL

He probably wondered why he had to drink so much!!!!!! hahahahaha!!!! :D ...Maybe I should've warned him that the only thing to take the edge off an INFI induced high is...

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BTW, my yard is lookin' pretty good. :thumbup:

Crafft, TL, TonyG, thanxx for the advice & tips! :thumbup:
 
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Here's some before's and after's of the CG FBM after the "experiment", and then after I resharpened the edge. :D

Takes a LICKIN'... Keeps on KICKIN' !!!!!! :thumbup:

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...Almost looks HAPPY, don't it?? :D:thumbup:
 
Very Cool! It is very interesting to see the diverse group we have here, and how we purchase, collect, use and care for our INFI. Upper income bracket proffessionals, military, educators, tradesmen, etc. on equal ground in assisting each other. The amount of INFI owned doesn't matter in this respect, just how you use, care and share.
Thanks for yet another great thread.
 
Glad to see this thread again. Nice stuff man!!

Got a patch of unruly bramble in the back that's gonna get the FBM treatment this fall. Gotta decide, FFBM, CG, LE or Ban modified FABM. :eek:

Maybe I'll hit some good stuff and get a chance to pratice the Edge Pro as well!!
 
First off, I just bought an edge pro and I LOVE IT :thumbup: I am certainly sharpening impaired :grumpy: This thread has inspired me to beat it with no regrets :eek: The only question is.....which one.....well.... or how many :p Am I taking this post too literal? :confused: :confused:
 
You've got to remember that you were 'walking impaired' when you were a kid but now look at you. Free hand sharpening is the same. I now use a dry set of stones and a light touch. It takes time but the results are worth it. Jaxx, your blade looks like it might take some time but with a big heavy use blade like the FBM I don't try to return it to 'Showroom' condition, I get the bevels right and make the blade sharp. Those nicks and dings will come out in successive sharpening sessions and won't lessen the usefulness of the blade at all. This particular knife isn't meant to be a paper slicer, it was meant to cut heavy dense material. The FMB would be a monster to learn to free hand but INFI sharpens easily and you can't really screw it up beyond repair sharpening by hand. Once you do the re-sharpening by hand you can use those sharpmaker things to do major 'touch-ups' between real edge restorations by hand. I enjoy sharpening the GWs, LMrs, Shakers, Rattails, Howlers, and Killer Bees. The larger ones take a little more time and concentration but once your hands know what to do it gets easier. Go beat the snot out of them and dress them back up afterwards, they love it!
 
mhawg said:
You've got to remember that you were 'walking impaired' when you were a kid but now look at you. Free hand sharpening is the same. I now use a dry set of stones and a light touch. It takes time but the results are worth it. Jaxx, your blade looks like it might take some time but with a big heavy use blade like the FBM I don't try to return it to 'Showroom' condition, I get the bevels right and make the blade sharp. Those nicks and dings will come out in successive sharpening sessions and won't lessen the usefulness of the blade at all. This particular knife isn't meant to be a paper slicer, it was meant to cut heavy dense material. The FMB would be a monster to learn to free hand but INFI sharpens easily and you can't really screw it up beyond repair sharpening by hand. Once you do the re-sharpening by hand you can use those sharpmaker things to do major 'touch-ups' between real edge restorations by hand. I enjoy sharpening the GWs, LMrs, Shakers, Rattails, Howlers, and Killer Bees. The larger ones take a little more time and concentration but once your hands know what to do it gets easier. Go beat the snot out of them and dress them back up afterwards, they love it!
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Believe it or not, I accidentally somehow put a "double bevel" on it with the edge pro... and it chops great! It's certainly not back to showroom, LOL, but it chops great, sharp as heck, and seems to hold that edge better with the slightly wider angled 2nd bevel. There's a few places along the edge where you can still see that it took a beating, but as ya mentioned, I figured that in the long run, why go that far back to "new", when I'll only use it more, and eventually those small areas will "fade" away, Plus I wanted to try to remove as LITTLE metal as possible, LOL, you know! :thumbup:... I'm thinking that the advantage to my mistake will be that it'll make it easier to put a convex edge on it sometime down the road, which is what I'd like to do... but for now, it works great so I'll let it be, and enjoy the chopper! :D:thumbup: The edge was fairly "hammered" and did need something more than just by hand. The tip was the hardest to get sharp again after having a bit sheared off.

Thanks all, for your comments! I've learned so much about knives and knife care since joining BF, and it's been a lot of fun too! :thumbup:
 
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