The Slipjoints that changed my ways...

I am really happy that so many of you have similar attachments to these fine and simple knives.

I spent last night, after the kids went to bed, re arranging my EDC rotation in anticipation of the Monday delivery. The Whittler will be in-house and I plan to put it in-pocket ASAP.

So, my Tanto Sebenza will go to the display case. I will still rotate in my Small Regular Pheasant, engraved with my name.

I will also have my Benchmade 705 for the really nasty stuff! By far the best folder, IMHO, for $90!

Well, off to wait for the delivery!

AC
 
Thank you for the post - that was a great story to start my day with.

"Accumulating" knives is something that I learned from my Grandfather too. He always had a cigar box full that he would show-and-tell. OldTimers, advertising knives from seed companies... Before he passed he handed them out to us grandkids. The one I received is a beautifully worn PAL cutlery slipjoint. I'll never carry it, for fear of losing it.

Best Wishes,
Bob
 
jackknife said:
Really great post.

I know I have went the full circle. In my 30's I was into the lockblade and Balisongs. Now I use what my grandad used, and he was a working waterman on the bay and did some farming as well. He always had a schrade stockman in his pocket.

If we look at what our granfathers used, and relize that they often spent more time working with thier hands, and out in the field than we do, we see the modern stuff is just tinsel and fluff with some hype tossed in.

Stockmen, trappers, sodbusters, barlow's- they were real knives.

And they still are real knives. They helped to build this country. I wish the History Channel or somebody would do a show about knives-- the stockmen, trappers, barlows,Bowies, etc.-- and the big part they played in the development of this country.
 
This is a good thread and I hate to see it end. Yesterday and today I have been rotating my edc about every three hours, just for fun. Yesterday I went back and forth between a 4 inch Camillus stockman and my old CaseXX barlow. This morning I carried my yellow handled Case 3318 stockman dove hunting. Got the barlow back out for a while then got out a old Craftsman "Schrade made" scout knife.
I could get by with any one of these knives but I enjoy each of them. They have something that modern folders are lacking in my opinion. I have heard"or read" people refer to it as soul. For lack of a better way to describe it I will go along with that.
I use my pocket knives at home, at work, and in the field. I trust them and feel comfortable with them in a way that I never have with modern folders.
I don't really have a point to any of this I just really like good old pocket knives. Gotta go. I am watching a old Schrade on E-bay and I gotta see how it is going. :)
 
Grateful said:
I could get by with any one of these knives but I enjoy each of them. They have something that modern folders are lacking in my opinion. I have heard"or read" people refer to it as soul. For lack of a better way to describe it I will go along with that.


That says a heck of alot of it Grateful. Soul.

In this homaginized, sanitized, plastic, shiney world of synthetic everything maybe we have a subconcous push to go back to what was real. Hold a stag or bone handle stockman in your hand and you have something a working cowboy from the last century would recognize. With a barlow a working man from the same time period would know it. Plus they are classic. Things become classic for a reason. A universal appeal to human nature. Think of all the music crazes that have come and gone while the works of Vivaldi, Hyden, and the rest of the classic composers still get air time. Restored 55-57 Chevys bring prices well over what most new cars go for, not to mention what a restored 60 something VW bug goes for.

I think long after the black zytel handle tonto bladed wonder knives go the way of the doe-doe bird people of taste will still be using bone handle stockmen and trappers and barlows. They just feel too good in the hand and work too well to ever go out with the change of fashion

Lots of folks out there are into thier black plastic guns and tacticle stuff, but look at the growth of cowboy action shooting. It's the single bigest growth in the shooting sports over the last five years. The single action shooting society has near doubled the membership in just three years. There's a hell of alot of people out there buying Ruger Bisleys and Marlin lever action rifles, maybe more than Glocks and AR's.

And I think the word soul has a heck of alot to do with it. Oh hell, I got on my soapbox again. I'm sorry guys, did'nt mean to go on a rant just because I'm not liking the modern world.

If you'll exuse me I'll go touch up the blade on my stockman and watch my DVD of "Open Range" again.
 
Well, the knife arrived. I have to say, this knife is amazing. I spend almost 2 hundred less than my Sebenza and I have gorgeous Stag scales and 3 blades!

I will start a new thread with a question on the steel...Also, I will provide a ~1 week review of my experience.

Thanks for all of your replies...appear many of you (now us) have a common thread when it comes to owning these fine folders.

AC
 
Not many things I do require more than this, my S&M whittler:

(pic from CKW)

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Regards,

Jeremy
 
AC and the rest of you, you sure took me back and got me to thinking. My grandfather was also the one who influenced me in many ways over the years. My first knife was a three blade 4 inch stockman, some kind of carbon steel blades, markings say Sabre and Japan on it, jigged bone or some other mystery material. Talked my father into getting it for me when I was about 7 or 8 (I'm 45 now). It was on sale for $1.99 and I was allowed to carry it when we went camping and to my grandparents house.

My grandfather (mothers side, deceased over 20 years now) was a mans-man, scrappy short guy from Kansas, a true sportsman, fishing, pheasant, deer, raised his own vegetables, pigs and chickens. I remember his knives were always very, very sharp. I can still see him with this big oil stone and him sharpening his knives by hand. Never took him more than a couple of minutes. My dad would instruct him to not make mine so sharp and he would ignore that and tell my dad that a dull knife was useless as stick. He'd go on to tell my dad that a sharp knife was safer and asked how was I to learn anything with a dull knife? My dad never argued with my grandfather. My grandfather showed me with my knife how to clean fish, properly cut all manner of things and most importantly how to use it safely.

I still have that knife and it's exactly like the knives AC told us about, stained blades and all the characteristics of having been well used. I carried that knife until 1982 when I replaced it in my pocket with a Cratfsman 4 inch stockman because I didn't want to risk losing it. I still have that one too. In fact I'm looking at both of these knives right now. I'm thinking, why did I ever bother to get anything else? They did everything for me that I needed doing for what seems like forever.

I think my grandfather looked at knives as true tools. You used them, sharpened them when they became dull and kept sharpening them as long as there was enough steel to put an edge on. He never worried about the appearance, it was a cutting tool after all. Why have it in your pocket if you weren't going to use it? Somewhere along the line we (maybe just me) made it all complicated with words like "tactical", additions of thumbstuds, different locking mechanisms, improved steels (which is good) and came to the point of being reluctant to use these "newer" and "better" knives for their intended purpose. Always that hesitation where before with my stockmans I never hesitated and I can guarantee you my grandfather never did either. Use it, sharpen it, seems like pretty basic stuff.

I've been getting back to basics with many things in my life and what I carry in the way of a pocket knife is one of them. Sorry for being so wordy, this is a great thread, thanks AC for starting it and the rest of you guys for adding to it.

Mike
 
I have a few of my Grandfather's knives and other tools. This thread lightens my heart. I fully believe that if the technology was there, even olden-days folks would use it. I am with everyone who says that many of the slip patterns "work" better. Let me elaborate:
I have been working on my house, built 1952. My other house was built 1922, sothis one is new to me. I have a wide variety of tasks to perform around the house. I have a 8ot that I bought 10 years ago for 5 dollars when my endura's clip broke off. Since I did not value the knife, I have used it to cut sheetrock, mark wood, pry linoleum tiles off of the original tile floor, cut roof tiles, clean grout off of tiles, cut old caulk off a tub, chip out that stuff that seals single-pane glass in (the name escapes me). Cut foam cushions, cut up a rug or 2..I could go on forever. The knife new probably wasn't much more than I paid for it (highly used). I use the poor thing to death, and will continue to do so until the day it falls apart in my hands. There is so much talk about "hard use" and "sharpened prybar" whatever, but do folks really see what a $15 slipjoint (or opinel, or whatever) can handle? I don't think a lot of knuts really put a knife through its paces.

Just my 2 cents.
 
I was into liner lock tactical knives, autos, etc. Then a few years back, I was on a cub scout campout and the dads were sitting around teaching their kids how to whittle sticks. I used to be a pretty good whittler, and decided it was time to teach my son too. I pulled out my carbon fiber, stellite, dagger bladed knife, picked up a stick, and I struggled to strip the bark off of it. The next week, I went thru the junk drawer at home and found my dad's old timer stockman and case 052 pattern congress. I cleaned them up, sharpened the blades, and was amazed at how well suited to every day tasks they were. Since I was into custom knives, I wanted to find out if anyone made custom slipjoints. Found a Reese Bose 4 blade congress on ebay, fell in love with the pictures of it, bought it, fell even deeper in love with it, and never looked back. Now its strictly custom slipjoints and lockbacks for me.

If you like your dads and grandads old slipjoints, you need to check out a custom slipjoint from a top maker like Chamblin, the Boses, Ruple, Shadley, etc, etc. There is nothing like them. History, art, and an evolved, useful tool all rolled into one.
 
Dijos said:
I don't think a lot of knuts really put a knife through its paces.

I'd say this Tony Bose custom trapper sure got put through its paces. Tony was so impressed that he gave the guy a new one for free.

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man-Tah's what I like to see! A knife owner who uses a custom Hard, AND a knife maker who wants to see his stuff used!
 
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