The "small" knives of HI

Terry Newton said:
That Kumar Karda in Antler is sweet.

What are the specs on one like that? Don't they normally run for around $60?

Thanks.

Terry, I can't speak for all KK's, but the ones I have are mostly 10" from 7-9 oz. The Kumar stag is 10" 7 oz. while the Sher stag is 10" 8 oz. The one on the end with the long handle is 12.5" by Sher, but still only 7 oz. The carved chandan ones run 9 oz. each. As a general rule Sher's are slightly heavier, as are the older ones I think. I got an old smooth horn one from Yiterp in AZ, and it ran 1/2" longer and 2 oz. heavier than most available today. I just couldn't find any in smooth horn that available.

I should have listed exactly what I paid for each knife in my records. Instead I have listed the HI web site retail prices for my wife's benefit, in case I'm not around and she has to sell them. Not that she would get that, but that's how I value them if the homeowners insurance folks happen to ask.

As I recall, Yangdu has been selling KK's for only about $45-$49, which are fantastic deals for sure. I know some stag ones sold for a bit more, which is understandable. But they have also sold for $55, and occassionally $65-$70 depending. Great all around knives.

Norm
 
Bumping this thread to give all those kerambit nuts something to drool over, and also to give a real thumbs-up for the tezdar.

I'd be interested in seeing some more of these guys come by during 2006. The Tezdar is a real eye-catching sort of knife, especially the forked antler handled one pictured here; although I have to say the horn one right next to it looks just as beautiful.
 
Kazeryu said:
Bumping this thread to give all those kerambit nuts something to drool over, and also to give a real thumbs-up for the tezdar.

I'd be interested in seeing some more of these guys come by during 2006. The Tezdar is a real eye-catching sort of knife, especially the forked antler handled one pictured here; although I have to say the horn one right next to it looks just as beautiful.

Check out post #5 of this thread to see Nasty's forked antler Tezdar. I believe that his and the one you link to are about the only ones ever made with double tines.

Norm
 
thanks for posting the pictures with the clear labels. As a newbie it is easy to get confused as to what is what.
 
Thanks for the tips, Norm. I really get your 'points'.


ouch, just typing that made me feel ashamed of myself. Anyways, the tezdar really is quite the looker, ain't she?
 
Hi Steve:

I couldn't help but notice the beautiful bright metalwork and handles in your collection.

Do you sand them up through the grits and then buff? Treat handles with tung oil?

I'm interested because I'd like to do the same to my two HI Kuks and the WWII era kuks I got from my father.

Thanks, Steve
 
Hi Steve,
If you have some antique khukuris, don't try to make them look too new, as it will lessen their collectors value. Only do what is necessary to preserve them, and put them in "using" condition. (my opinion only)

For newer pieces...

Brass and horn can be buffed with a cotton wheel on a bench grinder, or even chucked in an electric drill. The red rouge polishing compound that comes with the buffing wheels is good for brass and horn. You apply the red rouge to the running buffing wheel, then buff the work. Reapply frequently. DANGER The buffer is the most dangerous power tool in the shop, so be careful. Nothing like a 3600 rpm buffer grabbing a razor sharp knife and throwing it at 60 miles per hour.

When buffing horn, use light pressure and don't stay in one spot too long, as it can burn. If it has deep scratches, you can use 400, then 600 grit sandpaper first.

The carved wood handles are cleaned with a toothbrush and mineral spirits (paint thinner). After drying for a day, I use a toothbrush again to work some Tung Oil, or Tru-Oil Gunstock finish, or Watco Danish Oil finish, into the carved handle. A couple of coats is usually sufficient.

For smooth wood handles that I want to really shine, I use the following process. Good luck and have fun!

Steve Ferguson



First, use 2-3 layers of masking tape to cover the sharp edge of the knife for safety.
1. Use mineral spirits or paint thinner and a toothbrush to remove the red rouge polishing compound if necessary, and wrap masking tape around the bolster to protect it from scratches.
2. Start sanding with 220 grit sandpaper. When down to bare wood, move to 320 grit, then 400, 600 grit, always sanding with the grain. I use a hacksaw blade with the "set" of the teeth ground off the sides to clean out the grooves.
3. Apply a heavy coat of Tru-Oil with your finger. You can even sand the wet Tru-Oil with 600 grit sandpaper to make a slurry of wood and finish to help fill the grain. Smooth it off with your finger.
4. After 2 days wipe off any that is still tacky, and let it dry 1 more day.
5. Lightly sand with 1000 grit wet or dry sandpaper. Wet the sandpaper in a bowl of water. It makes the finish very smooth, and keeps the paper from loading up. You don't want to remove finish, just dull it. You can reuse this piece of sandpaper until you complete one handle.
6. Dry off the handle thoroughly and recoat with a VERY THIN coat of Tru-Oil.
7. The following night, if the finish is dry, wet-sand, dry it off, and recoat with a THIN coat of Tru-Oil. Repeat every night until the pores are filled, and you can look deep into the finish and see the soul of the handle. This will be from 10-20 coats.

No stain is used.

Chandan and Rosewood are very oily woods. I have had problems with the Tru-Oil staying tacky for many days. If this happens, after each coat I heat the handle with a hair dryer for 2 or 3 minutes to set the finish. It seems to harden the finish before the woods natural oils can leach into it.

I'm not recommending these methods, just reporting what I've done. As always, your mileage may vary.

Thanks to Walosi and Yvsa for their input and past posts regarding refinishing handles!
 
Great thread. Thanks for rehashing. Satori, and Roadrunner, your pictures aren't showing anymore. I'd like to see them if its not too much trouble. Steve, beautiful collection as usual, and Norm...what can one say. Thanks for the pics. I've been able to get a little collection of the small knives together myself. I've got a KK by sher in curving antler, an antler JKM by Kumar, and two antler sarges by Bura. They are cool ass knives. The JKM is my favorite of the lot, a true sweetie with a stout as hell blade. I'm going to rescabbard it soon as the thin leather they used is untrustworthy and I'd hate to loose that beauty.
 
Hi Steve:

Thank you for sharing those techniques. I am out of red rouge right now and only have black, white and green for stainless. I agree that the buffer is the most dangerous tool in the shop. My old buffer was about 3500 RPM and way too dangerous. My new buffer is 1725 RPM and a relief to work with.

I have two HI Kuks. A Pen Knife and a AK that Uncle Bill sold to me. I told him about my need for an unbreakable knife when I go cave diving/exploring in the Yucatan Jungle far from help. That AK is 1/2" thick and handled everything I came across in the jungle including what I believe was an eyelash viper. What a knife.

I will pretty up my HI Kuks after seeing yours.

Thanks, Steve
 
Outstanding Steve! I know I have this somewhere, but am printing it out again just in case. I have done a few with Watco, but none with tru-oil as yet. I have done several gun stocks with it though, so know how good it can turn out if you're patient.

Good stuff and thanks!

Norm
 
gah, these pictures are breaking my heart. i want an HI kerambit too and a sweet carry sheath too.

bladite
 
Steve Poll said:
Hi Steve:

I am out of red rouge right now and only have black, white and green for stainless. Thanks, Steve

Probably the white or green would work too. Won't hurt a thing to try.

Steve
 
Hi Steve:

I'll try both rouges. I think I will sand my wood handled Pen Knife, match the wood and metal up nice and smooth and finish it with tung oil. I post the outcome when I get a free moment to do it.

ArchAngel:

That's a very nice collection. How did you get them all on a platter?

Thanks, Steve
 
Great pics AA. I like the small knives a lot. The JKM is one of my favorite blades. What a piece of steel. I'm on the Kermabit list too. Nice set!
 
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