The SS627 'textoothpk went a little nutty'

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Here's a pile of knives sitting on my desk right now. Purty. Easy to carry, people friendly, those nice stainless slabs just beg to be engraved, as if for a gift or something else. I don't know much about the SS series knives. Larry, anyone, care to elaborate on them? This is the two blade model, I think the three blade was theSS648. And I understand there were some 3rd generations in this same pattern.
Phil
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Hey Phil,
Those are nice little knives. They look like they would be perfect for a very special....er, ah....well they are nice and people friendly..... :D

You do have some really nice knives.

Bill
 
It's a new take on knife collecting. One collects only a single knife model.

Calling Don Luis! Calling Don Luis! Please email me, address in my profile.

Phil
 
These new SS627 (2000-2001) were a re-release of the old 3Rd Generation SS627 (1983-84). They were partnered with a small single bladed knife, SS30.
I don't know of a SS647 that was not part of the 3Rd Generation line. It is one of the larger of the 3Rd Gens.

There were 7 knives in the 3Rd generation line one of which had a sheath, C641. The C641 is the same pattern as the ultra rare LB4 except for the handles. I did a report on these a while ago. (I really love this little set of knives!)

So what are you planning on doing with all these little beauties???? :) :D

TTYL
Larry
 
I think it is a very unique hobby, trying to buy up the surviving world stock of one knife pattern. I suppose this trumps my six 165OT's. Darn. I've never held one of those SS knives, but they do look like something a true dyed in the wool Schradeophile would own and carry.

Codger
 
OK, so Larry has explained this pile of knives I found on the dining room table. Can't swing a dead cat (hope my own kitty don't read this) around here without hitting a pile of knives.

Almost done playing games here, guys. Can I just say I'm working on a labor of love?

Phil
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I got to thinking, ( I only do that about once a week as it is dangerous and smells like burning rubber :eek: )..... that this pattern looks sort of familiar.
So I dug around and found a picture of the "Reverse Congress" Schrade/Joe Kious collaboration......any connection? Sure looks like the same basic pattern, the stainless one is, of course, not quite as traditional.

What do you think?

Both nice knives.

Bill
 
Bill needs a picture..
I'll get the camera ready and post a 627, 648 and the Kious for comparison.
If LT dont beat me too it.
I'll let you all decide if they are family or not.
Nutty, I think we all are.
TTYL
Larry
 
Pictures for a comparison.

SS627,SS648 (3Rd Gen). SS627(3Rd Gen), Kious
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SS627,SS627(3Rd Gen), SS648 (3Rd Gen), Kious
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SS648 (3Rd Gen). Kious
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As far as I can see, the reverse radius of the top and bottom of both are similar, but not that close. The SS handles radius are from a common centerpoint making the top and bottom of the knife parallel, and the Kious is from two different points inside the curve so that the top and bottom taper toward the bolsters. Other than that, and the blade shapes, and the seperate bolsters and exposed domed pin heads on the Kious, I guess you could say they....naw, I won't say that. :D

Codger Blankmeister

P.S. - Send me one of each and I will give you the exact radi and a performance comparison.
 
Obviously, the Kious is a traditional pattern, as I mentioned, with bolsters, scales (thus the pins) and a Wharnclifffe blade that would please Lord W. his own self.
I guess I was just wondering if one or the other, inspired one or the other..... :confused: The main blade shapes are quite close, IMO, and I would call them reverse Congress in shape. Did Schrade offer other 2 or 3 blade knives in this shape?

It was slow in here, I thought it might be interesting to compare, and I don't see many Schrades out this way, except what xxxMart USED to carry... :(

Thanks for the pictures Larry... :)

Bill
 
I always enjoy seeing those pictures. I think Joe's designs are almost entirely his own. While the reverse congress is a much copied shape, he loves the Wharncliffe blade pattern, and filework on the back of the blades is one of his trademarks, as is the fancy damascus steel, and a variety of traditional handle materials like this jigged bone, or fluted MOP or fluted mammoth tusk. He goes out od his way to avoid any straight lines anywhere on his knives. His original knives are a joy to behold.

Kious commented that, "I believe that the ornate folders I make are kin to fine watches, and are collectibles of the same caliber.......My passion is for folding knives, simply because they actually get carried, and consider ornate folding knives necessary jewelry for every gentleman's pocket, and indeed for every lady's purse..."
http://www.knifenetwork.com/classifieds/index.php?ct=dam_fld&md=details&id=660

Perhaps Larry, Phil or LT will post a pic of the full third generation series. I think some were wood scaled as well as full stainless. It may already be posted here somewhere and CRS is preventing me from remembering just where.

And you mustn't forget good old Sears Roebuck as a source for Schrades. Perhaps the only source of original Schrades still carrying a warranty!

Codger
 
Here are all 7 knives in the line with the sheath.
I know others whom also like this line 3 of the 7 have 3 blades
Enjoy
TTYL
Larry


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Thanks for taking the time to post those Larry.

The few Sears stores in Arizona haven't had any traditional pattern Schrades in a loooooong time. Here in the W/SW, Schrade was never able to keep up the battle against Buck, cheap junk, or those with more marketing power, I guess. Or maybe they never tried.
Even the knife and gun stores here didn't carry Schrades. Customs, Buck, Spyderco, Benchmade, those with famous gun names (farmed out, of course).

I've been knife crazy for the last 43 years, and I don't know 1 person out this way that carries a Schrade. That's why I enjoy this forum and the discussion that goes on here. It's a learning experience.
Those folks don't know what they missed out on..... :(

Bill
 
Pure class, Larry and thanks for showing us. You've educated us about these things and I appreciate it. I've only seen a couple of sets of these knivers on Ebay, never seen them at a knife show. Did you buy them one at a time, the fun way (in my opinion), or find the bunch as a set?

As usual, our forum is "the leading edge of Schrade discussion'.
Phil
 
Thanks Phil & Bill,
I got these one at a time. I would have loved to get a matched set but did not see one till I was almost complete. You can see the wood stain on one knife is a little lighter than the others. It seems easier on the pocket to buy them one at a time. :cool: I am still looking for the display case for the set from Schrade. They were wood (oak?) and lined with a green felt liner with each knife having a named and indented place. I've seen this case hinged with the Heritage display case as well on its own. I have not collected the Heritages nor the Scrims but we are never done!
TTYL
Larry
 
"Dios los hace, y ellos se juntan".

"God makes them, and they get together".

An old saying meaning that people with some likeness may somehow meet and get together, in this case a bunch of similar knives get together in a collection and some people who appreciate them come together (thanks the the Web and the Forums) to see them.

Nice, thanks for showing.

Luis
 
Can always depend on our Luis to wax poetic. Thank you for stopping in, my friend.

Now to the crux of this whole little display of nuttyness on my part.

Ever wanted to be a knife impresario? Issue your own special knife? Say, a club knife? I have. And I am doing it. Not cheap and not easy, but as I wrote above, a labor of love. The 'Club' in quesiton? Why this forum, of course. The 'prototype' and my own knife will be finished at the engravers in a week. I'll show off what I have accomplished then.

Special thanks to Larry for having the idea over a year ago. Thanks to LT for the encouragement (he more or less told me to do my business or get off the pot). Thanks to Bill (El Lobo) and Codger and Larry once again for the help and suggestions. I had reservations about not consulting each and every one of you, but as one of my confidants wrote: "A camel is a horse designed by a committee'.

If you ever wanna do this yourself, here are some pointers learned the hard way: 1.. find a good platform. I could have gotten Old Timer Middlemans for $7.00 each in bulk, and had the blades cheaply etched. How special would that be? Your engraver would be a big help here. I saw a 627 engraved as an advertising knife and knew it was what I wanted to use, reasons given in my first post. 2... That engraving gets expensive. Much more than the knife itself. A dollar a letter on stainless steel (hard on the engraving tools). I consulted with three engravers, only one could tackle the job. Size and shape mean everthing. Also finish. The brushed stainless on these knives make all but larger engraved letters impossible to read. 3... Remember the 'Camel' saying above. 4... make sure there is a demand for what you are making and have a price all nailed down. I failed to do this.

I am not taking orders here at this time. For one thing, that would be against BF.com rules. For another, I haven't figured it all out. These things may be more expensive than sentiment would justify. Again, more $ than you might think. Besides, I am happy enough for now. I am doing what I set out to, the labor of love mentioned above.

Hope you all have a great start to the week.

Phil
 
Phil,

Got a guestimate on cost?
Hey I guess my tag of lrv will save me a couple bucks!

How about you letting folks to email you if they are interested. Your email can be gotten off the BF by clicking on your textoothpk name and clicking on the email tag.

Put all the requests in a special email folder..
After a week or so you should have a decent count of who's in.

Just my .02
TTYL
Larry
 
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