The Strider AR Passaround Review and Questions Thread

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Yep, here it is.

Thread is here: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341624&page=1&pp=20

Why post this now? Two reasons. First, so I actually do it. Second, so other passarounders and people can ask questions for me to adress in the review.

More pictures to come, of course.

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PICTURES AND VIDEO UP
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Pic in your hand
PICS, PICS AND MORE PICS
Ease of opening
Carry concerns...Pocket abrasion
Give it hard use
Cutting abilities for edc stuff

All my many questions
This was a fine thought on your part :)
Thanks
Tom
 
I would like to see a picture of the spine and especially the tip, maybe a comparision to other blades and tips.

If you do something hard, tell us if you can imagine another knife to do the job or why not.

Maybe try to bend the blade, not breaking. Just a try how much it takes and give us an impression how strong you are.

Tell us about fit and finish in terms of edge bevel and so on. Or a good detail picture.

Security: Torque it, see if you can desengage the lock in some way of grip and movement.

Do the screws hold up to disasampling more than five times?

Many things to ask´. :)
 
After carrying this thing around for a bit, I feel like it won't break. I trust the mondo titanium linerlock plenty, and the simplicity of design is nice. It has BG-42 steel, which seems very tough. I haven't sharpened it, and it's not shaving anything, but it cuts and penetrates quite well considering how thick the blade it.

Using all of my force, I cannot even make the liner bend under pressure. The damn thing is nearly a fixed blade when locked open. I've often said my Benchmade 722 is built like a tank - If that's true, the Strider AR is built like Fort Knox.

The fit and finish are good for a working blade, the tiger stripes look cool. I know it has been someone's edc for awhile; the blade came with some rust spots on it and it was full of lint.

The G10 is grippy but not tearing up my pockets. It barely fits in my pocket though. :] It makes a fine EDC, just a tad large. I happen to like the heavy feel. the front choil gives you a lot of control over the blade.

It's roughly the same length as my AFCK, except it's twice as thick. The blade shape is very utility oriented, but i do miss the straight/recuved section that is present on many of my knives.

The pivot is very very well built, brass washers, very smooth. Adjustable with an allen wrench just like the rest of the knife (much better than torx adjustments, in my opinion). There is nothing about this knife that doesn't scream SOLID. It even seems to be grinning and saying "Do your worst." The blade snaps out with a satisfying KLACK, akin to pumping a shotgun.

The blade cleans up nicely, the coating is great. I've used it on cardboard, a sandwich, some very thin wire, and various other jobs, it handled them with ease despite being less sharpened.

Handle feels large but not clunky, good it just about any grip.

If I was going to pry something with a knife, I would want a Strider AR.

Pics will come tomorrow.

And of course, the evaluation that matters most. Why pay $350 for a Strider folder? Honestly, I dont know. A production folder like the AFCK is very nice and very fit for the job, or even a closer match would be the Manix (which I don't own) Aside from prying, all of the benefiets of materials, craftsmanship, and waranty can be found on these sub $150 production folders. That being said, the AR would be my folder of choice if I was spending months away from civilization.

The strider also has what I'll call the "Strider Aura" to it. Being a knife geek and knowing that it's a high end folder, I tend to smile when I look at it. My brain says "Mmm, G10, BG42, Titanium."


This knife is purpose driven: "High speed tools for hardcore individuals." It excels at that, it's not intended for a college kid to EDC and do tame things with. That's the impression that I get.



Edit- If you'd like to suggest any "hard use" for me to do, do it before tomorrow afternoon. Be aware that I have no car and am limited to things around the college campus. Pic requests by tomorrow night also.

My current pics plan: All angles, open, and closed. Carried inside pocket. Compared with Benchmade AFCK, Spyderco Calypso Jr, USMC Ka-Bar, standard 12 inch ruler, and something supidly common like a DVD case or CD. In hand in forward and reverse grips. Thickness comparison with a few of my folders. Detail of tang stamps.

Edit - to Blop: Using my hand strength I can't seem to be able to bend the blade, liner, or pivot, torque it in any way, or cause any blade play. Once you see the thickness of the liner and how it contacts the tang, you'll see that it is going nowhere. I can, however, disengage the liner quite easily in the intended way when I do want to close the knife.
 
Did a little bit of detail work with it making a Cat5 patch cable. It felt like I had a lot of control over the blade. I ran the knife over the sharpmaker and was impressed at how well the BG-42 sharpened and stroped up on my kabar sheath. I like the steel a lot, now it's quite sharp. Push cutting through the rubber casing was easy, pushing through the wires wasn't bad either. The edge bevel is mostly a consistent 20 degrees per side, but towards the tip on the right side the angle was a little lower.

Currently working on resizing all these pictures. Knife will go out to ayzianboy tomorrow.

One improvement for detail work would be to have a thinner tip - I found it too broad for getting into tight spots at times.
 
Pictures are up. If theres anything else you guys want let me know. Be sure to watch the Flick Open video to hear that the satisfying KLACK.
 
Ascoe said:
Pictures are up. If theres anything else you guys want let me know. Be sure to watch the Flick Open video to hear that the satisfying KLACK.

Thanks for the pics. I especially like the comparison pic with the AFCK. It really gives an excellent perspective.

I am wanting to buy a Strider badly. I just can't decide between the AR or SMF.
 
Really WELL DONE review!!!

I especially like the vids.
I gotta work on doin this :)
Gotta get a vid cam first I guess :)

Tom
 
Shockingly enough both those videos and pictures were from the same digital camera... My Canon A80 :D
 
Ascoe said:
Shockingly enough both those videos and pictures were from the same digital camera... My Canon A80 :D
Shittlin Dittlin!!!!
I use the Canon A80...512 meg card...
Where's my manual!!!!!

Thanks for that tidbit!!!
Tom
As you can see I'm a tad excited
 
Hey, same setup i have. Just turn the mode selection dial to the little video cam icon, and click the main button to start recording... same button to stop. Handy little thing :]
 
I'll try it out tonight..

To get more light on a scene I use `the Home Depot cheapo ~ $5 reflector housings and a Philips Reveal floodlight. It's "day light" You don't get the warm, yellow colors...

Tom
 
I am curious about several points....after using the knife for an hour or so, how does your hand feel...any sore, hot, or abraded spots? Do you think the blade overthick for a regular use knife? What vintage is your AFCK? I have a 10 or so year old first run AFCK, it has an ATS-34 blade, G10 scales, and titanium liner lock, is adjustable for tension, never could come close to forcing the blade closed...would NOT want to pry with it, but can report it has fallen to concrete both open (hit point first) and closed (one time it hit on the butt as there is a slight mark I can just make out, and the other times haven't left a clue)...the point-first hit burred the tip slightly, but that cleaned up easily....I am mentioning all this because you made it sound as if your AFCK does not have those features or performance under duress....be glad to read of either knife, especially in how well that thick Strider does slicing chores (both from a whittling standpoint and slicing stuff like thick cardboard or carrots to see if the blade bogs/wedges)....oh, and one more thing...I was just looking over those pics, and note the milled away radius at the aft/base end of the liner lock....looks about like 2/3rds or more milled away...is this for allowing flex of the liner lock, and if so, does it only bend at that one spot?
 
I didn't get to use the knife for extended periods at a time, I can't comment.
My AFCK I believe is the most recent update - I bought it in 2003 or 2004.
The strider was an excellent slicer, due to the flat grind.
The blade stock never felt too thick, but the point was too wide for some detail work.
That milled spot is so the liner will flex, it only bends right there.
 
That "bends in one spot" part bothers me a lot...any metal (including Ti which I work with and make things out of at work) can work harden and crack, so the bending load needs to spead over a large area as possible...nonetheless, it is an impressive looking knife, reminding me of my AFCK on steroids....FYI, I don't consider the AFCK the perfect folding knife (for instance, I prefer more belly for slicing), but it has held up very well to near constant use for the entire time I've had it, and several times a day it is used instinctively (or should I have gone tactical and said "deployed by the operator"?).....
 
shootist16 I am sitting with the exact same problem - AR or SMF. AR is bulkier and blade wider and about $100 less than the SMF. On the other hand I have a Strider/Buck/Tarani G10 and like the feel and fit of the handle design a lot.???? :confused:
 
That "bends in one spot" part bothers me a lot.
MTNGUNR, this very topic is being discussed elsewhere in this forum. In liner locks, the lock needs to be straight, so to have a gradual bend throughout the lock is a recipe for problems. If it has a gradual bend it takes less force to make it bend more than it does a straight piece of material. When liner locks fail it isn't because they break, and titanium has so much flexibility that the few degrees of locking/unlocking movement in the material doesn't mean much, if anything. I don't think there has ever been a liner or framelock that failed because it broke where the bend is.
 
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