The Surveyor pattern

Kerry posted a VF surveyor in the Old Knives thread...

KnifeHead said:
This stout little knife is a 3" Valley Forge Surveyor made in a whittler configuration. Valley Forge is a stamp that goes back to 1892. Sometime in 1902, Boker USA got involved in the company and ended up having controlling interest by 1916. The stamp was used from 1916-1950.

Some intersting features on this knife include:
*The master blade seems to be made from thicker material than it needs to be
*The tapered cut spacer/liner seems to be thicker on the secondary blade end than it needs to be
*The springs are notched on the inside to keep the master from rapping when closed
*The liners are bowed outward slightly in the center on the open side to make room for the blades

Too bad the punch was tipped at some time, huh Charlie:rolleyes:

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waynorth said:
Nice bunch of Surveyors Jake!
That's more of those knives than I have seen anywhere else combined!!
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Thank you, Charlie. I'll see if I can find the ad copy for these M&G knives over the weekend. I remember it saying something like "it's not a mugwump knife" :p

Most of those knives were M&G but one was Robeson. I think Miller Bros made some or possibly all of these surveyor knives for M&G. Some of them have the screw pins that are characteristic of Miller Bros. Sometimes these were worn down on one side or both. When they're worn down, they look just like regular pins. They sometimes had covered backsprings.

 
Awesome. Another reason I enjoy this forum. Learn new things just about daily. I wasn't familiar with this pattern either. Look forward to seeing more examples.
 
The new Tuna Valley qualifies as a surveyor, I think. Same slanted, threaded bolsters that Old Bowie showed on his Remington.

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Some neat old knives, and new ones.

I have a couple of knives I would term "mugwump", I guess!
 
Shamelessly taken from Levine's 4th and Blade's Guide 7th. I actually own one of the Remington 4 bladders, it is a 3 spring, and is considered a "Fancy" Cattle Knife, but cannot put my hands on a pic. I have never seen the Jack version.

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22-rimfire said:
I would think that a surveyor would have some sort of utility blade like an electrican knife. I have never heard of a surveyor pattern.
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same here.
been around knives for awhile but never ran across a Surveyer. wouldn't be a Hawkbill?

buzz
 
Old Bowie said:
The original pattern was made by Remington and is quite rare. Marketed by them in a Surveyer's magazine thats why the name.
I recently aquired one on my way to the Eugene Oregon knife show this year.
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looks like a camper pattern. if so imahve one made by Western.
 
Think about holding a surveyor pattern out in front of you and looking over that tip in the swelled center at a feature in the distance while attempting to hold the knife itself level to the earth.

A fanciful idea, but the reason, I think, the pattern was called a "surveyor" to begin with.

The only thing the knives are missing is a tiny bubble level in the handle.

Think about it.
 
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