The things we forget....list!

I went out on an overnighter with a buddy of mine a few months back. I brought all kinds of gear to play with & forgot some of my stuff. He brought water, sleeping bag, food, mess kit, backpack. He didn't forget anything! Ha.

It's a lot easier to remember your stuff when you don't bring so much of it.



For work, we have detailed check lists. One thing we started doing was making lists by container. That way, you check the container ahead of time & seal it, then all you have to do is remember to put it in the truck. We've forgotten to do that once or twice too, though, lol.
 
SouthernCross said:
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G'day Joe



Modest....nah

Just being honest mate. :thumbup:

Out of curosity, being a herp, how long do you reckon you would last in the bush over here with our snakes, by being absent minded. lol

Not to mention the funnel web spiders that are in the area that I get out & about in.

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Whilst you might think this post is arrogant, it's really intended as nothing more than an honest explaination of why I can't afford to be absent minded and forget things when I venture outdoors..

Obviously others milage may vary.



Kind regards
Mick


Hmm. I think I would do fine with those critters around, but I wouldn't be scared to go out because of them, or sleep on the ground. Actually I know I would do just fine if I forgot things like toilet paper or some food. Snakes are snakes, and as long as you don't go trying to pick them up bare handed, you would do just fine. Elapids are shyer than the snakes around here, when you get bit, its much easier to treat out in the field. In 2007, the US had 16 deaths attributed to snake bites, while Australia had 6. Getting to a hospital would be a number one priority of course, but the funnel webs have the same treatment. There hasn't been a death since 1980 due this spider bite. I dunno, maybe you have a bottle of antivenin that you never forget on hand, that would be interesting. Its hard to get here. I hear plenty of people getting chased by "water moccasins" in the US, and "tiger snakes" in Australia, but I've never met one who was caught. The most deadly venomous animal, statistically, is the European Honeybee, which averages 10 deaths per year in Australia. I can understand the ethnocentric mentality that you may be emitting, and can understand the mentality of thinking that you are the only one who actually does stuff, that "If only they could see me right now, that would show them", but everyone has the ability to have an outdoors experience anywhere in the world. I know I would have replied sooner but I've been camping.
 
This is probably not a popular statement on a forum such as "Blade Forums" but last weekend I went on a 2 nighter and learned moments before leaving that fixed blades were prohibited (I was unaware that Boyscouts held this rule for camp outs). Anyway, it was a great time and it was one of the RARE occasions I willingly gave up my EDC blade to partake in the enjoyment.

Long story short, I RE-learned that I can live fairly comfortably in the woods without a fixed blade (or any knife at all for that matter). It seems all this time carrying a knife, I forgot to consider what will I do if I somehow loose my blade...and was pleasantly surprised that I was able to succeed.
 
I know I would have replied sooner but I've been camping.

You're not getting it Joe, Your camping doesn't count as you were probably with in a 100 mile radious of civilization, cell phone service, or trees that aren't rated on a Janka hardness scale. So until you wrestle killer crocs, sleep where cell phones don't work, section real hard wood between two trees, or make a cutting board out of wood so hard it can only be cut by a Falkniven H1; your opinion means squat! So keep your idea of "wilderness" off of these forums, untill you can prove yourself with pictures, video, and a cool accent!


:D How's that for sarcasm?
 
This is probably not a popular statement on a forum such as "Blade Forums" but last weekend I went on a 2 nighter and learned moments before leaving that fixed blades were prohibited (I was unaware that Boyscouts held this rule for camp outs). Anyway, it was a great time and it was one of the RARE occasions I willingly gave up my EDC blade to partake in the enjoyment.

Long story short, I RE-learned that I can live fairly comfortably in the woods without a fixed blade (or any knife at all for that matter). It seems all this time carrying a knife, I forgot to consider what will I do if I somehow loose my blade...and was pleasantly surprised that I was able to succeed.

What's sad IMHO is that the Boy Scouts is or should be a GREAT place for a boy to LEARN how to use a Fixed Blade

Glad you had a good time though--but I'll wager you could have taught them a lot about the use of a fixed blade and they would have LOVED to learn it as well
 
What's sad IMHO is that the Boy Scouts is or should be a GREAT place for a boy to LEARN how to use a Fixed Blade

Glad you had a good time though--but I'll wager you could have taught them a lot about the use of a fixed blade and they would have LOVED to learn it as well

You know... I totally would have agreed with you as I took my knife off my belt and headed to the campsite, but now with hindsight, I will point out that I believe it is BEST to teach the boys to accomplish everything they can without a knife. Here is why.

1. You put a knife in the hands of a 10-14 year old and it is very hard to keep their attention (they will focus on the knife and not hear or see you trying to teach them anything).
2. You teach a boy to build a fire with their bare hands (and a match or fire-steel) and they will appreciate/understand the need to work as a team, and collect ENOUGH tinder in the right sizes.

3. By contrast, you give a boy a fixed blade and let them go to work, they will probably never learn to cultivate these minimalist skills until they are in a BAD situation (i.e. they lost of forgot their knife, and now need to learn WTF to do).

To your point. Once you develop these (knife-less) skills, yeah grab a good fixed blade and learn what you have been missing! (just do not forget these skills). The troop leader mentioned in the absence of the boys to me as I was taking the knife off and stowing it in my truck, that they only allow folding knives for reasons of safety. This statement utterly confused me, but I was a guest so I STFU and obliged. I am glad I did, it was a great time...but I fail to understand how proper use of a fixed blade poses any safety concern that a folding knife fixes (but there was no way I was going to disrespect anyone by challenging it...they have been teaching boys a lot longer than I have;))

It was pointed out by many/all of the leaders that family campouts probably have different rules, but Boyscout rules were in effect here. As the weekend went on, I learned that everyone present (left to their own devices) would do things the way I would, but when in Rome...

I guess it is a little like using fire starting aids. We all now they work and we (probably) all have them at our disposal when needed, but most of us practice minimalist/primitive means to build skills....sans-knife is quite primitive;)
 
Your camping doesn't count as you were probably with in a 100 mile radious of civilization, cell phone service, or trees that aren't rated on a Janka hardness scale. So until you wrestle killer crocs, sleep where cell phones don't work, section real hard wood between two trees, or make a cutting board out of wood so hard it can only be cut by a Falkniven H1; your opinion means squat! So keep your idea of "wilderness" off of these forums, untill you can prove yourself with pictures, video, and a cool accent!

I've always thought that he should just have a signature like this .... would save a lot of time typing the same thing over and over.


tonym said:
:D How's that for sarcasm?

Excellent! :thumbup:


Kind regards,

Brian :rolleyes:
 
G'day Joe



Modest....nah

Just being honest mate. :thumbup:

Out of curosity, being a herp, how long do you reckon you would last in the bush over here with our snakes, by being absent minded. lol

Not to mention the funnel web spiders that are in the area that I get out & about in.

Funnelwebspider.jpg


Whilst you might think this post is arrogant, it's really intended as nothing more than an honest explaination of why I can't afford to be absent minded and forget things when I venture outdoors..

Obviously others milage may vary.



Kind regards
Mick
LOL,is that some sort of Crab Lice?
 
That's like fearing a Cheeseburger.
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I feel like it is time for this thread to die, or get back on topic. It's not about the OP's original question, and hasn't been for a bit.

Personally, I always feel under-prepared in the food department (I usually forget about it until the last minute so I end up food shopping on my way out the door). I usually roll in with oatmeal, peanut butter, rice cakes, and canned soup if I'm lucky enough to remember to buy it at the store. Fuel canisters are also something I've forgotten frequently...
 
My gas stove is an el-cheapo Max-Micro by Coleman, but still, it is efficient and between that and my being misely with the fuel burn times, cannisters last a long time. But I do keep spare partial and full cannisters on hand and always have fuel left over after a trip. I also recently bought an Emberlit wood stove so the inconvenience of running out of fuel is no longer a concern. I also keep a variety of FD meals and entrees in my gear shelves so that if I do forget a gertain fresh food, I can still eat.
 
Honestly, and embarrassingly, it's less that I forget to take a fuel canister--it's more that I never remember to buy my first one... I've had a stove for over two years I think, and I have never used it. It's sad really.
 
Eating utensils, the Wigwam 40 Belows (feet always seem to get cold in the sleeping bag), Wassail ingredients... Alot of times if I'm going to a new spot and don't know what to expect, or I don't know the pace of things of the people I go out with, I'll wind up packing too much food or not enough. I tend to really mull over a long comfy dinner til about 11:30 or so, but sometimes I wind up packing stuff I don't eat, which sucks. Or the fish wind up biting too much, and I'm packing food down that I didn't even bring up with me. But the backpacking buddies that tend to go hard and fast for a long time and spend a short amount of time on breakfast lunch and dinner, I don't bring as much, and upon occasion they'll want to pig out.
 
Another aspect is your location. If you always head out to your favorite spot, it’s pretty easy to maintain that critical list. However, if you’re doing different activities…hunting, fishing, “herping”, rock climbing (or more likely bouldering), etc., your required gear does change and that can make it difficult without a thorough gear check.

I’ve camped/backpacked in several climate areas from jungles, rainforests, deserts, mountains, deciduous, coniferous, swamps and even small islands; some during all four seasons…they all require a slightly different packing list and more area-specific equipment…seasons change as do most “comfort” items as well.

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