Also, FTA, FTN, FTAF, FTC (or FTMC to be formal) if you wish to curse a particular branch of the services. FTS for the general situation. Never heard the "SUCK", myself, but I was a Navy Corpsman in the early 70's and the grunts would either wish to "F" the Corps, the Navy, "it all", "this sh!t", "the 'Nam", etc. Soldiers have been saying FTS for millennia and I don't believe that they meant "the suck", though they often say "this (or that) sucks". The "suck" seems relatively recent but, as is usually the case, an apt description of the situations that soldiers tend to find themselves involved in. My $0.02. Pete
Post Script: Nice tan/tan SJTAC. I could go for a 4th SJTAC, in tans this time, but let's leave the engraved ones for those who have survived the suckage. PIGmsayre