The Wave Master Project...

Don Rearic

Don Rearic

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I know the chances of this happening are nearly impossible as it has been stated that Ernie likes to make things a certain way, meaning chisel grinds and modified chisel grinds, etc...

The one thing that could settle all of this crap that is going on in these forums as of late is a strict tightening of Quality Control.

But let me tell you something that I have discussed with John Hollister...

This would simply place Ernie on the top of the Folder Mountain...NO ONE could touch this knife, if Ernie CHOSE to make it.

For one thing, I don't know how the current Production Folders are made, but Ernie would HAVE TO HAVE his hands on these and these would be HAND INSPECTED and TESTED by Ernie.

I have a way to shut alot of people up that have said various things.

For one thing, everyone wants to make money, they want to live their life and they want to enjoy hard earned success...and they want to do things their own way. Ernie is NOT a minority when it comes to that.

Some of the various criticisms are valid. I have never owned an Emerson that exhibited these problems...except for the loosening of a pivot screw which a turn of my THUMB can fix after hard Wave Openings...and, the finish wearing off of the screws. BFD to that in my opinion.

When I have purchased Emersons second hand, I usually ask if the lock up is tight, why? Because alot of people would use a knife hard...a knife CAN be used hard...ask Kit Carson about hard, inertia openings on a knife and whatnot, the best knife, no matter what the description, used, can exhibit problems.

Look, as Hollister and I discussed...

You want to shut everyone up Ernie?

You want to rock the knife world again?

Would you like a repeat performance of the Commander being awarded Production Knife of The Year?

You can do it again, you have to get your hands on them and YOU have to inspect them.

This is the Baby...this is the Commander from Heaven, the Wave Master...this is literally a Smart Bomb to launch on the knife world.

Titanium Body.

Integral, Frame Lock.

REAL Satin Finish and Hard Chrome as an option.

BG42 blade.

Hollow Ground Blade.

Plain edge.

Thumb disk.

Wave Opener.

Two blade styles, Commander style as it is now, just different materials and grind...and...

A Tanto blade as large and wide, some how, some way...

Keep it under $290.00

Nothing will stop you.

You put that out, your hands are in it and inspecting them...every last one of them...

Nothing and no one will touch you.

The whole concept of Wave Opening is so light years ahead of even the finest D/A Automatic Knives, it is sad...

You do this...I can see so many thousands of these knives being sold and people singing the praises, it would not even be funny.

Something has to happen.



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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
 
Don
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You told about our dream knife!!!!

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John
 
I would definitely be in on a couple of those!!
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C.O.'s-"It takes balls to work behind the walls "
 
Double BOING!!!!!

I like the idea
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going off into the background: "HONEY sell the china and the furniture im getting a couple more knives!!!"
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Ross T.
 
Oh my God, U mean I am not the only one thinking of a double bevel edged, intregal lock Commander. Wow, psyhic link dude. I hope this dream does come true.

Liong

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Like I said, I know that Ernie likes to do things a certain way and he built this reputation on Ti-liners, G-10/Micarta and chisel grinds...

And yes, I know you is lurkin' (that's Baltimore talk for heads up Yo...GROAN) in the shadows Derek...I know Ernie likes to do things a certain way and there is nothing written in stone that every one of these would have to be hollow ground or flat ground...you could make some of them chisel ground...especially a big, wide tanto blade...yee haw.

Ernie is also an innovator and this is in keeping with that.

Derek, print this out in a couple of days when more people respond and hand it to Ernie please.

To put it quite bluntly, Ernie is taking a lot of crap he need not take on Bladeforums over these issues and he has the skill, talent and attention to detail that make all of the criticisms, no matter how valid they might be at times, completely unnecessary.

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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.



[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 02-13-2001).]
 
Couldn't have said it better myself, Don. Excellent post!!!!

Ernie, Derek, if you're listening, LISTEN. The man has a point.
 
I couldn't agree more. This knife would break all existing sales records. Built to those specs, keep it under $300 and nobody touches EKI.
Please, Derek--show this to Mr. Emerson.
 
I have handled some of Ernie's Customs that were hollow ground. The Man has just as much talent as anyone else!

No more bitching and whining about;

(sniffle) "My knife is chisel ground and it won't cut straight...Waaaaaaaaahhh"

(crying) "Chisel grinds belong on CHISELS...Waaaaaaaaaah"

The Integral Lock, Frame Lock, whatever term is en vogue right now, is a Liner Lock on steroids. With a Titanium Frame, it is complaint free and would be quite evident from the start if the knife is done properly. It either is, or it is not.

As for the cost to profit ratio, other people do these things, and they remain quite viable and comfortable in a business sense. You just have to want to do it.

There has been repeated bouts of Sour Grapes on various Forums with regard to Emerson Production Knives.

1. Chisel Grind v. Hollow Grind or Flat Grind.

2. Lock Problems.

3. Pivot Pin Problems.

I believe it was in Tom Clancy's novel, "Clear and Present Danger" where Ryan advised the President with regard to dealing with the media when the questions turned to his friendship and association with a person with a shady background...

"When they ask you if you were friends, tell them you were good friends...if they ask if you were good friends, tell them you were the best of friends, leave them nowhere else to go..."

Paraphrasing, of course.

People want to rag on Ernie because of "Past Woes" I think...more than present problems.

I have seen folding knives of every description fail, one of them is quite popular and it is a piece of crap in my opinion, but alot of people swear by this virtually linerless linerlock...that wobbles so badly after slashing through cardboard that you have to tighten it.

While my Emersons may loosen a tad bit during heavy slashing, they are nowhere near the atrocity of this knife I am speaking of.

When an Emerson pivot screw loosens a tad, you don't even need a damned screwdriver! USE YOUR THUMBPAD...

OK, scrap that and just go for the maximum, give them nothing more to complain about.

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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.

[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 02-13-2001).]
 
See, maybe all the (and I've done ALOT!)bitching will do some good. I hope so.

Still, excellence should have been in place before the first blade was put out....and this excellence shouldn't come as a result of customer bitching (or free of charge testing services). Why would Emerson think any of his customers would settle for less.......kind of makes me think, some have settled for less. Made excuses. I'm NOT ONE OF THEM.

Improving QC on this brand should be for everyone. Not just to shut up us "whiners" who maybe demand more for their dollar.


jc
 
JC,

If you buy a Liner Lock, it should work, period.

Most of the other criticisms regarding Emerson knives are bullsh*t, plain words.

There is a company ON BFC that are manufacturing Liner Locks that don't really have Liner Locks. I have owned one of each, they did not suit me and I was not impressed when I sent one in for Service because when it came back, it did the same damned thing.

I don't go over there and bitch about it.

How can I convince someone that mine failed and a company that is supposed to be great at Customer Service sucked balls?

I sold them to someone who was fully aware of the "wobble" problem after usage.

The "wobble" problem that people are attributing to Emerson's Folders, I have never seen one anywhere near as terrible and problematic as the two knives I am referring to.

Maybe it is just me.

When I have something to defend my life with, which is what my Emersons are for, they ain't for damned whittlin' or peelin' apples or clearing the thousand acre tree lot in my back yard...nor are they for guttin' critters...well, not ALL critters. Heh heh heh...

But you know what? I'm an anal bastard...I know that how something performs...well, my life might depend on that...

So, I tend to practice with these things, and I, in general, will perform checks on my equipment for same.

If I slam bang these Wave Opened Knives into the Open Position, I check for "wobble," I look at the screw, I have never had to turn that pivot screw more than 1/8th of an inch...in other words, I think some people are exaggerating, using hyperbole to get a point across...

I have never had one of these knives that failed me the way many describe. Like I said, between being BLESSED and ANAL RETENTIVE, maybe I am slipping through the net here.

I take a damned Q-Tip to the blade channel and pivot areas of my carry knives once a week and use a pinpoint oiler on both sides of the pivot and I will put some pressure on the pivot pin with my thumb and give it a twist.

NO PROBLEM.

I have Inertia-Snapped all sorts of knives, any one of them that have a screw that the customer can remove can be rocked apart.

I accept this as a trade off considering in the immortal words of my Friend Jerry Hossom with regard to folding knives...

"THEY BEND IN THE MIDDLE."

Perhaps everyone should just take a deep breath and go get a 50lb steel plate for weightlifting and hang it off of their favorite folders and do like da Cold Steel video say to do...
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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.

[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 02-13-2001).]
 
Don,
You go boy! I agree. Ernie MUST fix this QC issue ASAP. Irreparable damage to his name/reputation will occur. His knives are geared toward self defense/tactical use. Would any of you carry a handgun that you had any doubts that if it would perform 110% when you need it? I hope not. I KNOW my Berettas will perform if and when I need them. Ernie's knives need to instill the same level of confidence.

The knife you described, the Wave Master, would be Chris Reeves worst nightmare. I'd call it the Sebenza Killer. I'd definitely get one.
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Brigadier
Beretta 92 FS nut and Wave-aholic
"And for this cause God shall send them stong delusion,that they should believe a lie;" 2 Thessalonians 2:11
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove[expose] them." Ephesians 5:11

[This message has been edited by Brigadier (edited 02-13-2001).]
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brigadier:
The knife you described, the Wave Master, would be Chris Reeves worst nightmare. I'd call it the Sebenza Killer. I'd definitely get one.
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You said, I did not.
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"You are no more armed because you are wearing a pistol than you are a musician because you own a guitar." ~Jeff Cooper
And the same goes for a knife...
And, I'm a Usual Suspect.
 
Don, I agree wholeheartedly with your posts.
Where do I sign up for one of those bad boys?
 
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