The winter "adventure" pushed me to buy a quality knive

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Hi everybody,
This is my first post. I did not give much thought about the quality of knives before and the $20 Walmart’s junk Made in China was enough for me, in the past. Now, I am here on this forum pondering for the last couple days what would be my first quality toy. I’m looking for folder EDC knife but, occasionally, as work’s schedule allows, I’d go in the summer for 1-2 days Sierra’s hiking and once a year for 4 weeks skiing vacation in Colorado. So I’d describe myself rather a weekend warrior than “survival wanna be.” This year in February me and my buddy took a hike in the snowy day. We did not expect anything unusual because snow was light at the beginning of the day so I’ve taken only small flashlight with me, just in case. Late afternoon, on the way back we’ve got lost in the woods because tracks were completely covered by the fresh and heavy snow which started heavy around the noon. We just knew we have to go down but with no sense of direction. At this moment I wished I had a knife to make a good long-thick stick, easy to hold to probe the ground ahead of me and to support myself. Each of us dropped in the “hidden snow holes” waist deep at least once, tripping over branches hidden under the snow every couple minutes causing both of us cursing at Life in general. We had a “fun” until around midnight when finally we hit the fire road. Next day I was so exhausted I could not ski. In circumstances like this what you guys think which EDC folded knife would be the most appropriate. I am looking at Fallkniven 35 PXL and ZT 03031 Ranger Green. I have to admit, I started to admire esthetics of knives and those two look very cool (I’m tired of utility/Walmart esthetics). How the quality of blade’s steel compare between those two? Does anyone own both knives and would share personal experiences with those two beauties? How is the grip for heavy use like making a walking stick from frozen wood? I have medium size hands. The only inconvenience of ZT is metallic alloy handle which can stick to your skin in very low temperatures in the winter, so probably I’d have to take with me small cotton gloves for winter hiking, every time I’d carry ZT with me. The warm skiing mittens I have, they are too big and unwieldy for fine hand’s movements.
 
mora companion, sak, opinel, rat 1, spyderco persistence or tenacious, Byrd cara cara... ...for a good start....
 
If you can afford a ZT go with a ZT, it's definitely an upgrade from "made in china"
I can't save up for several months for a folder, that's why I buy Buck knives.
 
If you can afford a ZT go with a ZT, it's definitely an upgrade from "made in china"
I can't save up for several months for a folder, that's why I buy Buck knives.

nice advice :)

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I would suggest a leatherman and a rat1. Or a SAK and a rat1. Some kind of multitool is a must for me when on a hike. You could also look into a small fixed blade. I edc an izula and it would be great for the unexpected woods chore.
 
For a good hunk of metal that you can chop with, without worrying about sharpening a recurve or about freezing your hands off using a framelock, I'd go for the Benchmade Adamas. The D2 steel is easy to sharpen in the field, the G10 handles are comfortable and not metal (so no freezing hands), and it's a beast of a folder that can handle anything you throw at it. Plus for its size it's fits in a pocket pretty well.
 
The knives you mention are good ones. You are wise to avoid metal handles for winter camping if you can. Go with a good G-10, wood, Zytel or something that won't hold cold. Also, consider easy operation with gloves.

For something more 'outdoor' oriented, and probably a little tougher in the squeeze, be sure to check out the DPx HEST 2.0 folder line. I've used those since they came out and can attest to their performance in heavy situations.

Also, the Emerson CQC-7 AW makes a very tough and dependable outdoor or camping blade with the added benefit of being very useful in the role of urban EDC. A very good, usually overlooked outdoor folder.
 
My personal opinion whenever I go to a place where there is questionable reception and help can be far away:
Fixed blade puukkos are designed for cold weather and are light enough to use as a neck knife
Backpack with a large chopper or ax/hatchet inside


That said, ZT is a pretty good brand You look into the Helle Skala?
 
Look at the Victorinox One Hand Trekker or its relatives. Plastic scales for the winter. Good saw for cutting your alpenstock.
 
It sounds to me like almost any knife would have done what you would have needed (cut yourself a "depth" testing stick), you just needed to be carrying one. The only "real" special requirement is to be usable with gloves, or not be too cold if you didn't have gloves on. In that case, you just should be avoiding most framelock knives (like many ZT's). Liner locks will have G10/plastic handle scales on both sides, as will lockbacks, axis, compression, triad, and a few other different locks.

Good quality, but inexpensive options start with the Ontario rat 1/2, utilitac 2, Spyderco tenacious, kabar dozier, as well as a number of Kershaw models.

A small fixed blade might be in order though for the backcountry trips. Something like a Mora, an izula, or bk14 would be a good place to start.

Good luck :).
 
Take a look for a well made puuko or leukko (sp). They were designed with usage in cold weather as a primary environment.

Being California, can you carry a fixed blade?
Are you open to doing so?
 
Im am by far not an expert, I am just starting to amass a decent size selection but...

The first thing I'd say is that you went from saying you wanted and Every Day Cary to describing a borderline adventure/emergency scenario. Those are two different things by far, at least for me.

As for an EDC, my favorite by far so far is a Kershaw Skyline. It is light, extremely easy to open, and holds a decent edge.

HOWEVER, if I were to select one folder for my hiking gear, ski gear, hunting gear, etc. out of what I have so far it would be an Ontario Rat 1.

For myself at least, what I am willing to carry on an actual adventure is much different than what I would carry every day. For an EDC, I want to go light on the handle, whereas for adventure I probably want a fixed blade or if not at least a very heavy handled folder. I just got the Rat 1 a few weeks ago and the handle IMO puts it out of the EDC league and into the camping hunting adventure league.

Just my humble opinion.
 
I EDC a rat1, but I have big hands and only buy pants with big pockets. Also carry a bk14 on my belt more often than not, and keep a CRKT Zillatool close by.
If I am wondering off into the Rockies I carry my bk15 with some fire making kit.
Like was mentioned, EDC and off into the woods might require some different tools.
 
Look at the Victorinox One Hand Trekker or its relatives. Plastic scales for the winter. Good saw for cutting your alpenstock.

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For the situation decried in the OP, the SAK saw is the way better way to go. Small enough that is't always going to be with you, and it will pop open a few cold ones when it's over.
 
Even for a "day" you should be more prepared than that.

My wife and I day hike often, and I always have a small fixed blade and a multitool of some sort on me.

A Mora no 1 can easily be carried around your neck and a Victorinox Farmer can go in a pocket. The little saw on the Farmer would have made easy work of de limbing a hiking stick.

I often carry the Mora with the Farmwe in my pocket or a Leatherman Wave or Victorinix one hand Trekker in a belt pouch.

Even for a day hike you should have a knife, fire starter, metal cup, and spare socks. Next time it could save your life.
 
Even for a "day" you should be more prepared than that.

Even for a day hike you should have a knife, fire starter, metal cup, and spare socks. Next time it could save your life.

Even if I am going fishing at a local stream/River I carry a small fixed blade in O1, fire steel, flashlight and a folder. I have my first SAK with a saw otw and that will take the place of my folder.
 
Buy a Cold Steel American Lawman or a Mini Recon 1 (not Tanto---useless). CS has the strongest lock and the knife handles and they are pure G10.
 
Even if I am going fishing at a local stream/River I carry a small fixed blade in O1, fire steel, flashlight and a folder. I have my first SAK with a saw otw and that will take the place of my folder.

Heck, I carry a flashlight, a folder, and a multitool riding the train to work.
 
The 301 is nice but its extremely heavy and bulky, it never gets pocket time. Fallknivens are very, very good knives.

Budget - go with a sak with a locking blade and saw. I think mine is the jumper model with the serrated blade layer removed.

Step up - leatherman wave, you can't believe what these things are capable of and the pliers are real handy.

Step up - enzo birk 75 awesome edc lots of pocket time sharp as a laser, classy looking

Lots of good suggestions, but in all honesty I would never buy another zt301.

A buck 110 is a solid choice as well.
 
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