TheBladeMaster

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So this is something that's been going on for about 3 months now, and I think I've been more than patient and nothing has come from it. I bought an Umnumzaan from TheBladeMaster on December 24. He described it as "all original parts included," and being in "excellent condition." When I asked further if there were any scratches, marks, etc, he said that there were only a couple "micro scratches on the pivot." When I got the knife, it was missing the cloth and wrench that I thought would have counted as "original parts," the titanium sandblasting was visibly worn smooth, the pivot looked like it had been messed with with pliers, and some of the screws were stripped (that's the way it came, I had another CRK wrench handy and carefully tried to open them, but they were damaged already).

I decided I could just send it in to CRK to get it refurbished. The sandblasting I'd be fine with paying for, but I thought that since the knife wasn't as described, the seller should cover some of it or take the knife back. I asked for a $20 partial refund, and he replied: "Ok, that reasonable. Give me a few days." Then he must have changed his mind, because he started ignoring all emails and messages I sent him, even though I could see he logged in regularly. Finally, he emailed me: "Don't have $ in my account. I was not planning on having to give you $ back. I recently purchased a knife that had stripped screws. I left a good feedback and charged it to the game." I'm not entirely sure what that means, but I thought I'd give him a little more time. It looks like he's made a few sales and purchases since then, so I don't think he was being entirely honest about not being able to send the money over. Nothing came of that, so finally yesterday I gave him an ultimatum to right the situation by today or I'd alert other members about his shenanigans. His response was this:

"I don't care about bladeforums anymore (notice im not even a gold member anymore) because of members like you who look for ridiculous things to extort people and get cash back. If i see a thread opened on me by you all I will do is go straight on and and leave you a bad feedback. Im tired of buying knives and putting them in the safe and reselling them at the same or cheaper prices with out touching them to find the person i sold the used knife to finds so minor problem and demands $ back. If you stop emailing me and walk away you can save both of out feedback score. Cheers."

I do think that unlike the commitment he made to help me fix up the knife, he will go through on his threat to leave negative feedback, and my reputation will suffer. But I think that part of what makes this site great is that the members and moderators actively strive to make this forum safe for other knife enthusiasts, and I feel like I'd be ducking my responsibility as a member here if I didn't warn others about this guy. Bladeforums is a community that seems to promote honesty and discourage bad character, and that's helped me to avoid people like this so far. I guess I got unlucky this time, so I'd like to see to it that others don't have the same experience. I've bought a decent number of knives on this forum, and I've never had a problem with anyone else. Most users go to great lengths to describe flaws I probably wouldn't have even noticed. Furthermore, if this was a cheap knife I wouldn't care as much. But TheBladeMaster was selling a high-end knife with less care than most here sell their Sanrenmus. And since this particular knife has been my grail for a while, I really wanted it to be as he described it.

Long story short, stay away from this guy. He doesn't sell things as described, he ignores communication, and he doesn't honor agreements.
 
Thanks for the update on the individual. I wouldn't worry too much about negative feedback, as long as you paid in full and promptly any negative feedback submitted should be able to be removed as not being factual. You seemed (one side of story only) to approach the subject fairly and in your best interest in this deal. I especially do not like that he couldn't give a $20 discount, he should have all of your money put aside until he heard that you were happy with the deal. Not having the money to pay you back should be a red flag to all members.

As far as not liking BF, if that is the case simply stop logging in!!

Good luck to the OP, I hope that everything works out, and at very least you got a knife, I have been left knifeless at the end of 2 different transactions, at least you have something, even if it isn't as described. Not much consolation, I know. Hope that this doesn't sully all of BF for you, despite dealing with 2 people that took me, I have had many more deals go well- much more than ITrader would suggest, so it is worth it.
 
Sorry to hear you were lied to about the condition of the knife. Thanks for the warning.
 
Over $20? What a joke blademaster. Is this the same guy that had skeletor as his avatar? If so, I dont think this is the first time he has had complaints about knives showing up with flaws that went unmentioned. For him to reply sayin Ill leave you a negative if you call me out for my own stupid actions says he is nothing but a child. Grow up blademaster, refund the measly $20.
 
That is just wrong on so many levels. Is doing the RIGHT thing a lost art?? Thanks for the heads up. You were more than patient and I commend you. Good luck going forward. John
 
Pay the $20 Dude and be fricken done with it!!!
theblademaster, more like masturblader if you just let this one ruin you
 
You know I was going to give him the $20 no problem. $20 is nothing to me. Then my principles took over and I became angry with this situation. Yes he is right im pretty much done with bladeforums. I am sick and tired of selling people used knives only for them to nitpick every single minut problem with it and demand money back. I told him in the thread "used" "customized" "original parts included". I took plenty of good 8 megapixel pictures and even sent him extra to his email. He purchased a USED knife from me that he knew was not a 100% new at a price that reflected this. About $75-100 below retail. Im sorry im fed up with the shit. I dont care what this does to my reputation here, have fun with your little inputs and responses im done.
 
You know I was going to give him the $20 no problem. $20 is nothing to me. Then my principles took over and I became angry with this situation. Yes he is right im pretty much done with bladeforums. I am sick and tired of selling people used knives only for them to nitpick every single minut problem with it and demand money back. I told him in the thread "used" "customized" "original parts included". I took plenty of good 8 megapixel pictures and even sent him extra to his email. He purchased a USED knife from me that he knew was not a 100% new at a price that reflected this. About $75-100 below retail. Im sorry im fed up with the shit. I dont care what this does to my reputation here, have fun with your little inputs and responses im done.
It isnt about being nit picky, there were flaws that went unmentioned, you yourself acknowledged this and were going to pay $20 back to the buyer. Its not about princple, its about what is RIGHT. But whatever, if you are going to be childish about it, dont let the door hit ya on the way out.
 
If I made such a commotion about every used knife i ever bought I would be writing these about every single one. Its not about being childish its about the principle. Like i said im over it. Notice im not a gold member anymore. I dont care. Good riddance. I already slammed the door shut along time ago. This is me not caring.
 
Just for the record I have several Umnumzaans and none of them came with the blue cloth or a hex wrench. The overall condition of the knife should be presented honestly though, a picture says a thousand words as they say. TBMs responses in this thred are also some what telling.
 
I dont care what this does to my reputation here, have fun with your little inputs and responses im done.

I dont care. Good riddance. I already slammed the door shut along time ago. This is me not caring.

I don't really know why you have become so sour on BF, but goodbye. Sorry this place was not a good fit for you, and wish you the best.
 
You know I was going to give him the $20 no problem. $20 is nothing to me. Then my principles took over and I became angry with this situation. Yes he is right im pretty much done with bladeforums. I am sick and tired of selling people used knives only for them to nitpick every single minut problem with it and demand money back. I told him in the thread "used" "customized" "original parts included". I took plenty of good 8 megapixel pictures and even sent him extra to his email. He purchased a USED knife from me that he knew was not a 100% new at a price that reflected this. About $75-100 below retail. Im sorry im fed up with the shit. I dont care what this does to my reputation here, have fun with your little inputs and responses im done.

Would these be the same principles that had you involved in another negative thread here in the GBU less than a year ago?
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...me-grinded-down-like-the-last-one-you-sold-me


If I made such a commotion about every used knife i ever bought I would be writing these about every single one. Its not about being childish its about the principle. Like i said im over it. Notice im not a gold member anymore. I dont care. Good riddance. I already slammed the door shut along time ago. This is me not caring.

Then 2 things...
1. Stop selling your damaged wares here. Used is used, but damaged is damaged. Stripped screws are a problem that should have been disclosed on your FS thread along with any known issues with the pivot.
2. Do yourself a favor, since you don't care and all... Log off from BladeForums one last time and don't look back. We won't miss you as much as you won't miss us. Good riddance is right...
 
For someone who does not sell anything on bladeforums you sure do have a lot of input for those who do Jaxx. Ill do whatever the hell I want. If i decide to log on again I will.

There was no damage on the pivot. He tryed to get $20 for a pocket clip screw that I believe he stripped because i have emails of him telling me he tryed to take it apart with tools he did not think were the right size for the knife.

Sorry I wont let anyone on here take advantage of me and be extorted because of an altercation i may have had earlier this year.
 
Hmmm, looks like I should have researched this guy a little better before buying from him. Thanks for the support, guys.

For someone who does not sell anything on bladeforums you sure do have a lot of input for those who do Jaxx. Ill do whatever the hell I want. If i decide to log on again I will.

There was no damage on the pivot. He tryed to get $20 for a pocket clip screw that I believe he stripped because i have emails of him telling me he tryed to take it apart with tools he did not think were the right size for the knife.

Sorry I wont let anyone on here take advantage of me and be extorted because of an altercation i may have had earlier this year.

That was the CRK wrench I thought wasn't the right size for the knife, because it wouldn't turn the screws. I sent you this: "I have a CRK wrench from a small sebenza, which should be the same, but I can't get it into the screwheads. The heads also look a little odd, were they stripped?" That wrench didn't work, so I got a takedown kit for the Umnum. Guess what? The wrench is the same, as expected. Looks like the screws were stripped.
 
You knew you were buying a used knife that had been customized and outfitted with different screws. Get over it. Dont buy used knives if this is how your going to act. You got a nice knife from me well below retail with what you claim had a stripped pocket screw i did not mention. I must say i am finding this tread rather amusing.
 
Like i said im over it. Notice im not a gold member anymore. I dont care. Good riddance. I already slammed the door shut along time ago. This is me not caring.

Then this won't hurt a bit.

For someone who does not sell anything on bladeforums you sure do have a lot of input for those who do Jaxx. Ill do whatever the hell I want. If i decide to log on again I will.

I don't think so.
 
Thanks, Blues. Better to not deal with this guy anymore.

I'm sorry for your trouble. Not every deal goes as smoothly as we would like but most folks are willing to make it right one way or another.

What we don't need in our community are folks who have no respect for their fellow members, the rules or the moderators who try to ensure that the integrity of the site and the trust of the membership are not violated.
 
I'm sorry for your trouble. Not every deal goes as smoothly as we would like but most folks are willing to make it right one way or another.

What we don't need in our community are folks who have no respect for their fellow members, the rules or the moderators who try to ensure that the integrity of the site and the trust of the membership are not violated.

Agreed! :D I'm over this, just wanted to make sure the same thing didn't happen to someone else.
 
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