Things to AVOID in folders and fixed blades

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Started this thread to help out new folks who want to build their knife collection but also need to be discriminate in choosing their specimens. We were all new to this hobby once, and perhaps others can benefit from our mistakes, some errors more costly than others. Of course, things to avoid will be subjective to a degree, but I still think your inputs will help out newbies and maybe even a few seasoned collectors.

That being said, here are a few of mine:

1. Stay away from gas station knives. It’s a matter of safety really. Sooner rather than later, that cheap liner will give out at the worst possible time.

2. Karambits, UNLESS you really like the design and understand its limitations. There are plenty of mid-tier to high quality karambits out there. The issue is limited philosophy of use. You can’t really use it to chop vegetables or pry apart bark. It was originally an agricultural tool though, so it could technically be used to clear out weeds or other vegetation, although a machete would do the job much faster. I’d pick something else to start off my collection. Karambits can come later.

3. Functional QC issues in folding knives. First, bladeplay (does the blade wiggle when locked open?) in any direction is generally not acceptable. If my el cheapo Rajah 3 is 100% rock solid, so should the $200-300 Zero Tolerances and Benchmades. The higher the price tag, the more meticulous you should be when it comes to QC.

Second, blade centering is an iffy issue, but I’ll chime in. As long as the blade, when folded, is close to the center, you’re golden. It’s generally a bad sign if the blade rubs against the scales during deployment. Have that knife exchanged before leaving the store.

4. Generally, stay away from knives with logos of non-knife companies stamped on them. These will be made with the chrapest materials possible. Stick with Spyderco, ESEE, Cold Steel, etc.

Looking forward to your own thoughts, ladies and gents.
 
Not trying to be abrasive or unpleasant, but my immediate thought is that this is a bad place to offer unsolicited advice in a thread like this. Folks who are new here will generally ask and folks that have been here for awhile, well, plenty of them are far more knowledgeable than you or I.

My advice is to concentrate on what you want and value in a knife and not to worry too much about what others may value or buy. If someone asks, sure, try to steer them towards a quality product, but telling someone that asks for a karambit that they don't really want a karambit is purely an act of arrogance even if you end up being right. Part of the joy of this hobby is figuring out what you like for yourself and if a karambit is a bad choice for them, they'll figure it out soon enough.
 
Not trying to be abrasive or unpleasant, but my immediate thought is that this is a bad place to offer unsolicited advice in a thread like this. Folks who are new here will generally ask and folks that have been here for awhile, well, plenty of them are far more knowledgeable than you or I.

My advice is to concentrate on what you want and value in a knife and not to worry too much about what others may value or buy. If someone asks, sure, try to steer them towards a quality product, but telling someone that asks for a karambit that they don't really want a karambit is purely an act of arrogance even if you end up being right. Part of the joy of this hobby is figuring out what you like for yourself and if a karambit is a bad choice for them, they'll figure it out soon enough.

No offense taken. Wasn’t my intention to be arrogant about Karambits, and I’ll take note of that. You’re right about exploration being a huge part of the hobby.
 
Not trying to be abrasive or unpleasant, but my immediate thought is that this is a bad place to offer unsolicited advice in a thread like this. Folks who are new here will generally ask and folks that have been here for awhile, well, plenty of them are far more knowledgeable than you or I.

My advice is to concentrate on what you want and value in a knife and not to worry too much about what others may value or buy. If someone asks, sure, try to steer them towards a quality product, but telling someone that asks for a karambit that they don't really want a karambit is purely an act of arrogance even if you end up being right. Part of the joy of this hobby is figuring out what you like for yourself and if a karambit is a bad choice for them, they'll figure it out soon enough.

I didnt take it the same way you did. I thought it was kind of thoughtful for him to start a thread for new people in the hobby and give up a few basic points on what he considers the basics to build on. If someone was too shy or just lurks like most of us did for a while they may appreciate his post. I'd say no harm no foul here.
 
Avoid cheap crap.
Inexpensive is fine...I can still enjoy an inexpensive knife.
Cheap crap is, well, crap.

You can tell cheap crap when you hold it in person.
For buying online, stick to known brands, so you get what you're paying for. :)
Plenty of good, well known brands for all price points.
 
I didnt take it the same way you did. I thought it was kind of thoughtful for him to start a thread for new people in the hobby and give up a few basic points on what he considers the basics to build on. If someone was too shy or just lurks like most of us did for a while they may appreciate his post. I'd say no harm no foul here.

Appreciate it, man. But like I said, no harm done. Constructive criticism is just as valued as a thumbs up. :) I’m also learning something new every week.
 
Avoid cheap crap.
Inexpensive is fine...I can still enjoy an inexpensive knife.
Cheap crap is, well, crap.

You can tell cheap crap when you hold it in person.
For buying online, stick to known brands, so you get what you're paying for. :)
Plenty of good, well known brands for all price points.

For inexpensive quality folders, the Endura 4 and BD1 Manix 2 come to mind. Really great knives.
 
Also, be aware that many popular brands, and models have counterfeits lurking about. Whatever you buy, buy it from a reputable dealer. There is a list of BF supporting dealers around here somewhere....
 
I would suggest that the most important thing is to have a knife on you when you need it. I have gone with a simple, but true EDC, which has been in my pocket every day - for well over 20 years. That’s the knife that ends up doing most of the work. Not because it’s great, but because over time it becomes an extension of your hand, and just seems to materialize there whenever you need a knife.

On top of that, you can add whatever other knife strikes your fancy; but, always have your comfortable every day knife at hand.

n2s
 
This is a very subjective thing, no? Off the top of my head my list of things to generally avoid would look like (full disclosure, I enjoy buying and using knives but I'm not a collector, really):

  • Thick blades on anything but axes and other chopping implements--4mm thick is about 2mm too thick for 99.9% of all things you'd use a pocket knife for
  • Full tangs on small knives that aren't choppers
  • Heavy knives
  • Finger choils on anything but tiny folders where they can provide a full grip on a tiny knife
  • Frame locks and compression locks on folders, because I've realized that despite owning many of them they're my least favorite lock mechanisms
  • Custom screws (e.g. the triangles, dot patterns, SPOT see through garbage, etc.), the stupidest fashion statement idiocy ever added to a folding knife
  • Anything made by that low life dirt bag piece of human refuse, Mick Strider
 
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Avoid overly thick knives and overly large knives that don't cut or carry well.
Also avoid the notion that smaller two handed opening traditional folders are outdated and obsolete, you gotta give one an honest try before you decide.

You may decide that you prefer the modern stuff, but you gotta find out for yourself what works for you.
 
4. Generally, stay away from knives with logos of non-knife companies stamped on them. These will be made with the chrapest materials possible. Stick with Spyderco, ESEE, Cold Steel, etc.

This is generally a pretty solid rule, but I was gifted a Browning-branded knife that I actually really like:

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. . . it was made for them by a Japanese maker, and it's actually quite nice. Damascus & mother of pearl, buttery smooth action, file worked back spacer.
 
Avoid buying knives that’s not within your budget.
Avoid impulse buys.
Avoid getting caught up in the hype about the latest and greatest steel/model.
Avoid owning a knife and not knowing how to sharpen it.
Always remember, this hobby is meant to be fun, a learning experience for better cutting tools. Always know what purpose your knife will serve and spend time/use your knife before getting another one.
 
As others have opined; stay with a known quantity. Buy a name-brand, made with quality materials, and of a first-rate alloy. Nothing-wrong with carbon-steel either. TOPs has sold a ton of 440C blades. Buy from a reputable dealer, if a price seems fantastically-low, then odds-are, it's a total rip-off! Always select a folder with a solid lock-up: e.g., axis-lock, tri-ad lock, or XR lock. Next, buy a product that's up-to-the-task at hand. Don't over-knife, or under-knife. Read the reviews about what your about to buy, see what others have-to-say about it. Be an informed buyer please! If you follow the advice given in this thread, you should be good-to-go.
 
What I've learned from all this knifey cutty stabby stuff is to avoid gimmicky complex locks and outlandishly complex designs. I really like things that are simple and easy to maintain.

Someone who has studied the blade for a while could do more with something like a Buck 110 Lite than a novice could ever dream of with more premium gear.

Complex is a fun novelty, but simple is better for real use.
 
by evilgreg: Anything made by that low life dirt bag piece of human refuse, Mick Strider

We understand your passion, but most newbies are not looking for a $400 folder...
Back when I was a lurker on BF, I saw the thread of Spark tearing apart and going full Mike Tyson on Strider Knives with facts and logic. All I can say is... damn. It’s scary how some folks can get away with shady shit.
 
What I've learned from all this knifey cutty stabby stuff is to avoid gimmicky complex locks and outlandishly complex designs. I really like things that are simple and easy to maintain.

Someone who has studied the blade for a while could do more with something like a Buck 110 Lite than a novice could ever dream of with more premium gear.

Complex is a fun novelty, but simple is better for real use.
It’s really fun to knifey flippy swingy one handed stuff with the Para 3 though lol. It’ll be tough to explain that to the ER nurse though.
 
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