Things you never thought you would see

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[lt632ret]

Good digging Micheal I am glad I got jammed up to day and could not go into the next point I want to cover which I call ( in my best 50tys imitation of a western theme song ) The validation of Codgers contention.

Any one up for a loan, about 4 grand today for my habit I just cannot say no. I sure wish wimmen were as attracted to me as I am to them and Schrade knives ( not in that order. ).

You know I liked that dang Pach so much that when I found another in the pile today I made it my carry piece. Heck I saved one complete knife and all them bolsters for posterity but, I am only human. Something about the heft the reinforcment you mention might have something to do with it . I need to try it with a bandit ( a small piece that smokey used to sell that could be attached to a blade to make it a one hander ). They were the only ones I ever saw sell it. It came with its own allen wrench. In any event the heft and the grip really just make it come to hand ( so to speak ). Bradley, G Schrade, and H Baer were just amazing. as the old song goes as long as there is a USA don.t let there memory die . That they were making history never once occured to them But I doubt if it would have happened if it had not been for them .

I always start singing any day I buy a lot of knives. LT

 

[redshanks]

Codger, thanks for digging up the info on the Pachmayr LB7. Until LT posted this topic, I thought my knife was some sort of orphan. This background helps to flesh out the history of some very unique knives that came out of the Schrade sample room. LT is absolutely correct about the usability of this knife. The finger grooves and stickiness of the rubber handle make this a great design for a large folder, but since I only have one of these, I can't bring myself to actually use it.

I'm looking forward to LT shedding some additional light on other manufacturers knives that were found in Schrade's back room. I have a very interesting Buck prototype that came from there and have wondered why it was in the possession of Schrade.

 

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[redshanks]

Then the other six handle designs provided by the Pachmyer designer, some of which may well have inspired some other later Schrade handle designs.

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You didn't say, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some of that inspiration resulted in the XT series of knives.

 

[lt632ret]

I am glad that these postings are generating some interest. Todays entry answers a question to which we have known the answer to all along however, knowing and proving are often two different things. We have all surmised that Schrade did comparison testing on products similar to theres. Most companies do, it is common practice. However up till now aside from some occasional paper work relating to this testing there has not ( to my knowledge ) been a true total validation ( samples test results ect ) of this procedure. It is to end any conjecture regarding this practice which is todays subject. I am sure most of you remember the folding tool frenzy of the 90tys. Schrades offering into this market was the Tough Tool. Often when I did shows on the East coast for Schrade, I was asked how the tool would hold up under salt spray. Truthfully I could never gave a righteous answer since I had no idea. Apparently Schrade also was asked this question and in order to answer it they sent a Gerber, Leatherman, and a couple of Schrades to a testing company to get some answers The item were sent to the Massachusetts Materials Research INC with actual testing done by Dirats Labs. The results showed that to some degree they all rusted. However the results are secondary to finally being able to show that Schrade did do comparison competitor product testing. So here is the whole enchilada Samples reports results even the individual bags. Not exactly like finding the Ark of the covenant but still showing and proving one of the techniques used to produce and compete by an american firm. Once there is no competition there will be no need for this kind of testing you will simply get what the manufacturers want to produce. As american companies go under this becomes more and more prevelant. I wanted to post the written pages from photo point but seems to be having a problem so they will be a bit smaller than I wanted. This is a small part of history however the small parts make the big picture. Next out of this strange little R&D box a pocket knife with the stamina of Wilt Chamberland. LT

 

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[lt632ret]

I do not know if that paper work is in there perhapes I will run across it in the next 5 years which is what it should tak to go through the mountain of 2600 lbs of paper work added to what was already not gone through in my garage. Again my aim in posting was not for the specifics of the test but rather to validate conclusively that they did comparative testing on other makers products. LT

 

[lt632ret]

Todays offering from the strange little R&D box is a knife that obviously had its handles and part of the liners removed so that the lock would not function it also had a hand tighteninable ( is that a word ? ) screw put in to hold the handle to the blade. It is a SG7 or OUTBACK model and was apparently done this way to use for some type of testing. I held it in my hands for a few minute trying to figure out just what it was meant to test and then EUREKA it came to me. Actually I turned it over and written on an old piece of attached tape it read Opened and Closed 26000 times. I find this interesting in that aside from its uniqueness for purpose it shows the extent Schrade went to in order to put out a reliable product. Obviously it you were going to open a knife 26000 time you might not want to have to release the lock each time. I have attached a few pics and one of a display in my private museum (house)of how they were displayed to be sold. Like I said yesterday a knife as dependable as Wilt Chamberland for opening and closing like he was when he played basketball ( what else would I be referring to?? ). Next from the box well perhapes a surprise. LT

 

[El Lobo]

Pretty cool there LT...I especially like the display...and your analogy.

I'm sure everyone knows that Wilt Chamberlain (aka "The Big Dipper") still holds the single night and single season scoring records. Many of his accomplishments were even before he went Hollywood.

Just as information of course.

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[lt632ret]

I saw him in Monticello NY when I was a kid he was going into a bar called The Green Door ( yup real name ). He was very young amazingly tall and back then not only the tallest man I had ever seen but the skinnyist he filled out later. But he was a rail then. LT

 

[waynorth]

It is so enjoyable reading these stories from the "treasure boxes" of history. Please keep 'em rolling LT,
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[El Lobo]

OK then Rich,

It appears as though the knife may have outscored Wilt by 6,000...but, who's counting?

I'll crink to both of them. Can we crack open your display?

Bill