Think You Guys Could Cheer Me Up ?

Smooth Operator said:
Code 3, you said you had a good idea of what it was I was trying to get into, and why it is I'm being denied the chance. I got a legitimate question for you: How do I force myself to not feel the hatred and resentment I feel towards this guy and those in his line of work ? The best way I can explain, is that I have the marbles to realize it would be an unfair prejudice, but at the same time, any time I see him, and those in his field, the first thing that's going to come to mind is "Woah, he's part of that outfit that told me to go screw myself, man I want to go over there and....." Well, you all get the point. And I mean no disrespect or unfairness in that, but seriously guys, try applying for a job, while the guy who's in charge there talks about helping and providing opportunities and taking care of you and your family and teaching you all kinds of stuff, and giving you special benefits, but tells you to go screw yourself because you caught a petty Class B misdemeanor in high school (which doesn't even show up on a background check if I was informed correctly) Honestly, how do you force yourself to not have any angry feelings at him and his outfit ? Could you find yourself having respect for him and his ? Could you ever be in the same room as him and his without losing your temper ? Could you ever bring yourself to think highly of someone who robbed you of an opportunity to do something honest and legit to take care of yourself and your family ?

Andrew
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You need to realize deep down that it isn't these people fault you didn't get the job. They have policies that have to be followed, and adhered to. Clean, and I mean squeaky clean backgrounds are paramount to public service positions. There are always exceptions though. It depends what you did in high school and at what age whether or not it would be overlooked. I would take up a discussion with a personnel officer, and not 'this guy' you know, because he may not have all of the inside info that the personnel people do.

My Dad used to harp on my brother and I constantly about not breaking the law, and always doing the right thing. Sometimes circumstances prevail, and I did get in some trouble when I was a teenager. So did my brother. nothing major; neither one of us were ever charged with any crimes, but we sure had the crap scared out of us by the cops. (Seperate incidents. I was accused of being an accomplice to a habitual shoplifter. I held some stuff for him, and was questioned, hauled to the P.D., ect, then released to my dad.) I was a firefighter for over 20 years, and my brother retired from SEAL team 2.

Bottom line here Andrew, is that you are finding out the hard way that your actions have consequences, and it is no ones fault but your own. Harsh, yes, but that is the blunt truth. You now know that you must follow the law, no matter how stupid it may be, and be above board at all times. Don't hate the individuals who hold the job you coveted; they did things right to get where they are, and are very proud of it. I would be too.

Email me with details of your prospective job, the class B offense, who you were told no by, (Supervisor or personnel director) and I'll see if I can give you some sound advice. There may be a way to get you in the door if what I'm assuming is correct.
 
When I graduated college, it was a good job market. I had quite a number of job offers myself. Most everyone was getting at least one or two offers. And the employeers were being competitive. But at least half of it was defense work. I went to the Boeing Military Airplanes Company, myself, for a number of reasons. Some companies you obviously think of as being military/industrial sector such as Boeing Military Airplanes. But, even many of the non-military/industrial sector companies were, at the time, doing some defense work or at least wanted to keep their options open to may be pick some of that work up. Most of the grads who didn't get offers didn't because they had something in their past that made them inelligible for a security clearance.

In one case I know of, the fellow had been convicted of selling drugs back in highschool. Obviously, we don't want any dope pushers working on military projects, do we? But he wasn't selling cocaine or meth or anything -- anabolic steroids. You may wonder if he was trying to get a football scholarship or something? No, he just wanted to impress the girls. And it cost him in his career later on. I ran into this guy at a professional conference years ago. After six months or so of living at home off his parents, he finally got a job with a small company. He went through a series of such jobs before finally getting on at HP. In fact, he's become quite a senior guy at HP. You've probably used some of the products he's designed.

As for how you forgive someone for some wrong that you perceive that they've done to you, well that's a matter of your own personal morality and character. Personally, I have enough problems in my life without choosing to hold onto the bad things. Just let it go.
 
One of the questions the Postal Service asks applicants is whether they have ever been convicted of anything, and they are telling the truth when they add that a conviction is not necessarily a deal-breaker on getting the job.

One of my employees got called on by the Postal Inspectors after some time on the job, and told they had found a conviction on his record (in the course of another investigation). It was part of a juvenile record and would not have shown up on any background check and if he had disclosed it, would not have cost him the job.

But the Insprctors insisted we fire him for lying on his application by not disclosing it himself.

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You really had to tell them about your prior problem. That they handled the information unprofessionally is a shame. Bad karma for them. Don't let yourself fixate on it, or it will dog you even through future success.

NO REGRETS, not ever. Go on past success or failure without second-guessing the best that you could do

Frankly, I would be more inclined to pity them than to resent them. Missing the opportunity to hire people based on past problems can rob them of employees motivated to overcome those problems, rather than time-servers who just want the job for the paycheck.

On the other hand, you have to look hard at your own highly defensive attitude and ask yoruself if some of that defensiveness might not have come out in the interview and been as responsible for your rejection as the old offense itself.
 
CODE 3 said:
Email me with details of your prospective job, the class B offense, who you were told no by, (Supervisor or personnel director) and I'll see if I can give you some sound advice. There may be a way to get you in the door if what I'm assuming is correct.
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Hey, Smooth Operator, this kind of offer to help is a rare opportunity...you're a lucky man.


It sounds like you are learning some good lessons lately:
1. Your actions have consequences.
2. Drinking solves nothing.
3. Lots of people like to be helpful, even to strangers.

There will be another lesson coming, much later on in your life. Unfortunately, this lesson has never been of any use to anyone. I'm talking about the lesson that when we are young, we are fortunate to have so much time to make things better. I guess it's not really a lesson...more of a realization...a realization that comes too late. Try to enjoy what you have.

And watch the booze. Use it to celebrate, not to try to chase away demons...then the booze will be the demon....and you might kill someone else when you're drunk. THEN you will have a problem that nobody can help you with.

Move on.
 
Good EVENING, ANDREW, OR WOULD YOU PREFER I CALL YOU "ANDY BABY"? ALRIGHT, SO BE IT.
HIYA ANDY BABY. IT IS I, THE INCREDIBLY OLFACTORIAL OFFENSIVE VAMPIRE GENERAL.
YRP, GENERAL, I TOOK OVER THE SPOT THAT THE SURGEON GENERAL HAD CUZ THAT DOPE WAS DOING SURGERY WITH ALL THEM MEDALS ON HIS CHEST AND THE PURPLE HEART HE GOT FOR STUBBING HIS TOE ON AN OUTWARDLY STICKING NAIL IN A WOODEN FLOOR IN THE OPERATING ROOM, DROPPED INTO THE GUTS OF A PATIENT HE WAS SURGERYING ON!. SO NOW I GOT HIS JOB, BUT INSISTED THAT THE JOB TIT-HEE HEE-LE BE CHANGED TO VAMPIRE GENERAL.LO AND BEHOLD, THERE BE A NEW JOB TIT-GIGGLE-LE IN THE GUBMINT!
:jerkit: OUTTA THE GOODNESS OF MY OWN BLACK AND RAPIDLY PULSATING HEART, I SHALL CREATE A NEW POSITION SAY LIKE CADAVER-STAND IN FOR PRACTICE ATA GARGANTUAN GUBMNINT SALARY AND OFFER IT AT YOU. NOW IF THAT DON'T CHEER YA UP, I SUGGEST GOING TO A PET STORE AWITH A BUCKET, FILL IT WITH PUPPIES AND WATCH 'EM. THAT'LL WARM EVEN THE COLDEST HEART!!
HOW'D I DO?
HOPING THAT ANDY BABY SMIRKED JUST ONCE... MAINLY FOR MY OWN NEED FOR PEOPLE TO LAUGH AT ME AND MY IDIOTNESS, I REMAIN, VAMPIRE GENERAL
 
Sir, yes sir, sir! If that don't relieve his morosity, he deserves to be a cadaver stand-in! Thank you, sir!
 
I heard this somewhere, maybe it will help.
Feeling down and out......Just think about when it was up and in!
 
Esav, Yep. I Promoted Myself....
Did I Happen To Mention That The Stroke Swtole About 50 Iq Points From Me? I'm Dead Serious!

Anyhoo, Andybaby Ain't Responded, So Maybe He's Still On The Downside... That Sucks.
 
Vampire Gerbil said:
Did I Happen To Mention That The Stroke Stole About 50 Iq Points From Me?
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Is that related to military intelligence?

You're UnDead Serious!
 
I have learnt early in life that if you don't get that particular thing you want, there's normally a better one waiting for you around the corner.
 
I AM UNQUALIFIED TO WORK AS A DRIVER FOR DOMINOS PIZZA.. I HAD A RECKLESS DRIVING CHARGE AND THAT PROHIBITS ME FROM JOINING THAT WONDERFUL TEAM!!
SURE, THE SHERIFF CLEARED ME TO CARRY A CONCEALED PISTOL/REVOLVER AND I WORKED ARMED SECURITY FOR 2 1/2 YEARS, BUT THEY DON'T FIND THAT DRIVING FLAW OF MINE TO BE OF ANY MATTER.
OH YEAH, I CAN OWN A MACHINE GUN TOO!!
BUT SOME PLACES HAVE THESE BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS AND COME UP WITH NEW RULES AND STICK TO 'EM LIKE FLYPAPER CUZ THEY WORKED SO HARD TO COME UP WITH THESE RULES. SORRY IT FOULED UP YOUR PLANS, BUT IF YA DON'T HAVE A RECKLESS DRIVING CHARGE, YA COULD ALWAYS TRY WORKING FOR THE DOMINOS "FAMILY".
OK, THAT WASN'T CHEERFUL.. LEMME TRY THIS...
LOOKIT THE MEMBER'S AVATAR OF A PANDA BEAR DOING JUMPING JACKS. IT SO FUNNY! ALSO, THIS VERY FUNNY TO ME, BUT I'M AN IDIOT.. HOPE YA GIGGLE LIKE A GIRL!
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CLICK THAT THERE LINK THEN THIS LINK TOO!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public/Fun/priceless.jpg
 
First off, I want to say, Thanks Code 3, for that information you gave me. I truly appreciate it, and it's good to know that I can still qualify for the job I told you about. That alone is enough to boost my confidence. I almost thought that I was completely worthless and would never be able to get this job, but low and behold everyone, there IS hope. Things are looking up because of that and hopefully I can get this cleared up very soon. Thanks guys.




Andrew




PS - Vampire Gerbil, or Vampire General, or General Vampire Gerbil, or whatever you prefer to be called, your a trip dude, lol.
 
Vampire Gerbil said:
Esav, Yep. I Promoted Myself....
Did I Happen To Mention That The Stroke Swtole About 50 Iq Points From Me?
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Ackkkkkkkkk! Negative intelligence! :eek:

I always thunk IQ couldn't be less than zero, but I guess I wuz wrong....
 
Naahhh ... Cougar, it's starting back up the other side of the scale -- an upside down bell curve, ya see ... ?
 
I don't know if it's relevant in the USA, but here in the UK we have what's known as the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974.

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-r...s-and-rehabilitation-of-offenders/index.shtml

Essentially, this entitles people to have certain offences regarded as "spent" after a certain period of time, and not to have to declare them in job applications, etc.

It might be worth researching whether your state has a similar enactment.

maximus otter
 
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