Thoughts on Heavy Mistresses

I'm sure if Mike Tyson or anybody on the Chicago Bears was wielding a FFBM against a normal person with a Bagwell, I would bet on Mike Tyson. I am talking about pro bushwackers.
 
Maybe the answer can be found over on the Bernard Levine forum? There must have numerous threads regarding real 'Bowies' or frontier knives.
 
Alex p. Schorsc said:
Cobalt, I don't think you can just call me wrong . Check out this link which I picked up in 2 minutes of googling. It is a historic Bowie from 1860 and it is 3/8 in. thick. http://www.hylandgranby.com/marine_antiques_paintings_details.asp?itemID=I00771

Have a look at the size of Sam houston's Bowie which was recently sold. It was huge and it is validated as belonging at one time to Sam Houston. I'm not talking about a Buffaloe skinner's knife, I'm talking about a Big Bowie. The Sanbar knife wasn't the design that we call Bowie. Take a look a Rudy Ruana's site. he was an old timer and he says that the giant Bowie knife that he produces at 3/8" is the most authentic Bowie type. Look at other replicas in historic societies such as the Bridger Bowie. The Iron Mistress was built according to historical research. I don't know if there really is a Smithsonian Bowie in Washington. But I have heard that the knife really exists and that it is thick . Maybe the majority of the knives extant from the period are thinner. That does not mean that the military elite did not carry big honkers. Lastly I would like to mention Mr. Raymond Thorp which did A LOT of research not only into Bowies but into Western History. He is one of the pioneers in frontier research and although not a History Professor was no slouch . In his book he quotes from "British Correspondences Concerning Texas " which was published in 1861 where a British Officer states, regarding the Bowies on sale at the best cutlers in the area, "In weight it was heavier than the heaviest Oriental handjar or poignard, and in its whole character it strongly reminded me of the short heavy Roman gladium." Yeah they're all wrong along with me. I would say that the jury is still out on this one, so before you accuse someone of being wrong, at least hear what they have to say and don't dismiss them so quickly. As Shakespeare said "There are more mysteries between heaven and earth, Cobalt, than your vain philosophy can imagine." Just kidding, but lighten up.
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Not to be picky, but the link you provided states "3/8 inch" at its "widest point". We don't know at what point of that blade that measurement was taken.
 
Alex p. Schorsc said:
Cobalt, I don't think you can just call me wrong . Check out this link which I picked up in 2 minutes of googling. It is a historic Bowie from 1860 and it is 3/8 in. thick. http://www.hylandgranby.com/marine_antiques_paintings_details.asp?itemID=I00771

Have a look at the size of Sam houston's Bowie which was recently sold. It was huge and it is validated as belonging at one time to Sam Houston. I'm not talking about a Buffaloe skinner's knife, I'm talking about a Big Bowie. The Sanbar knife wasn't the design that we call Bowie. Take a look a Rudy Ruana's site. he was an old timer and he says that the giant Bowie knife that he produces at 3/8" is the most authentic Bowie type. Look at other replicas in historic societies such as the Bridger Bowie. The Iron Mistress was built according to historical research. I don't know if there really is a Smithsonian Bowie in Washington. But I have heard that the knife really exists and that it is thick . Maybe the majority of the knives extant from the period are thinner. That does not mean that the military elite did not carry big honkers. Lastly I would like to mention Mr. Raymond Thorp which did A LOT of research not only into Bowies but into Western History. He is one of the pioneers in frontier research and although not a History Professor was no slouch . In his book he quotes from "British Correspondences Concerning Texas " which was published in 1861 where a British Officer states, regarding the Bowies on sale at the best cutlers in the area, "In weight it was heavier than the heaviest Oriental handjar or poignard, and in its whole character it strongly reminded me of the short heavy Roman gladium." Yeah they're all wrong along with me. I would say that the jury is still out on this one, so before you accuse someone of being wrong, at least hear what they have to say and don't dismiss them so quickly. As Shakespeare said "There are more mysteries between heaven and earth, Cobalt, than your vain philosophy can imagine." Just kidding, but lighten up.
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I was just messin with yah. Notice my big smiley :D

Seriously, there were probably as many variations of knives back then as there is now.

It is really a point of reference. Let's say that for example progunner being smaller likes the SFNO, me being a bit bigger likes the SHBM and a buddy of mine who is 6'8" tall may like and actually carry the NMFBM, so it is all a matter of perspective.

but your still wrong :D lol jk
 
I can sell you bit of the real cross if you like. As a matter of fact recent research into the REAL bowie knife point to a knife known as the Nuclear Meltdown Fusion Battle Mistress Limited Addition. It seems that this knife - the original bowie - was sold recently for one million dollars on a site called The Busse Company Store.
 
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