Thoughts on plain edge vs combo edge

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I have a combo edge BM Leopard Cub now.

I decided to get me either a mini grip or a regular grip, but cant decide on blade.

I have always kinda felt "annoyed" with the combo blade. I have actually used it very little in the last 10yrs.

But I think about its superior cutting ability and I hesitate. Yet I never need that superior cutting ability.

Your thoughts?
 
My thoughts are either go all serrated or all plain. I really cannot stand combo edges.
 
If you never use the SE portion get a plain edge. I have a couple combo edges, but have been buying plain edge exclusively for a while now. I am in the market for a full SE (probably a Pacific Salt) for cardboard and other tough duty, but for most of my EDC tasks the plain edge is more than adequate, as well as being easier to sharpen.
 
Serrated edges don't cut better than plain edges. Dull serrated edges cut better than dull plain edges.
 
Knife Outlet said:
Serrated edges don't cut better than plain edges. Dull serrated edges cut better than dull plain edges.



I disagree. i usually carry a 1/2 serrated blade, partial serrations cut better than none. dull or otherwise.
 
Ring said:
I have a combo edge BM Leopard Cub now.

I decided to get me either a mini grip or a regular grip, but cant decide on blade.

I have always kinda felt "annoyed" with the combo blade. I have actually used it very little in the last 10yrs.

But I think about its superior cutting ability and I hesitate. Yet I never need that superior cutting ability.

Your thoughts?

I think that with a grip or mini grip - those two knives specifically - (I've owned both), you're better off with the plain blade.

Because the blades on both of those models are just not long enough to give you the full benefit of either serrated or non-serrated.

Comboedges aka part serrateds I think can be useful once you get to about 4 inches or longer.

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Personally I carry a very very sharp full serrated (Native, Delica or Endura) and a very very sharp plain edge (BM 710 or 530).
 
If you put a toothy grind on it you get the benefits of a plain edge and serrated edge in one. You can even do your own combo edge with toothy on one side and polished on the other. I've been doing this for years.
 
The type of serrations has a lot to do with it. Large ones tend to hang up or rip, small teeth saw through with less friction. I can cut heater hose best with a slight sawing to start, then a full push cut with the plain edge if the teeth are small. My psuedo pSnG Buck 887 PA works well, but some others fell out of my EDC because the teeth were a hinderance. It's just an extension of edge geometry.
I no longer carry full serrations because they wouldn't cut as easily as plain edge. Even partial is falling out of my favor when the teeth are oversized.
 
I like the combo edges because it makes it easier to cut some materials. Granted the plain part gets the most use the serrated is still useful at times.
 
I dont care for the combo edge either...
To small of cutting surface on the PE when half of the blade is serrated...
SO I bought a Buck Code 3 Crosslock! 2 blades one serrated one Plain end!
Good luck.
Jim
 
I like combo edges. I have a serrated option for stuff for when I need a serrated edge, especially when cutting certain materials, and a plain edge for most cutting work. I own 1 fully serrated knife and I used it once,maybe twice and carried it as many times. I don't care for full serrations. However, I could be content with a plain edge.
 
I carried a combo edge for several years. In that time, I never had occasion to use the serrated section, but I found that the serrations got in the way a couple of times when I wanted to put more english on a tough cutting job. I switched to a full plain edge and have had no regrets. But I seldom cut cordage. Perhaps if I did I would want the serrations.
 
Hey Guys...

I'm with the guy that said. "Full Serrations or None at All"..

ttyle

Eric
O/ST
 
My firsts blades had combo edges and I can only remember using the serrated part once. Despite of this, I got a Buck Strider recently with combo edge (I made a good deal for the ATS34 version and couldn't resist) and, because of the blade size, I maybe use the serrated part more than I did with my other combo edged blades...

Right now I like plain edges much more than combo and I'm willing to get a fully serrated to test it out, I just can't decide what model get :)
 
SanShou said:
Right now I like plain edges much more than combo and I'm willing to get a fully serrated to test it out, I just can't decide what model get :)

I highly recommend the Spyderco Endura and/or Delica.

Spyderco's serrated edges are really excellent and very sharp right out of the box. VG-10 steel, made in Japan.
 
rifon2 said:
I highly recommend the Spyderco Endura and/or Delica.

Spyderco's serrated edges are really excellent and very sharp right out of the box. VG-10 steel, made in Japan.

If you're going spyderco serrated anyway you might as well get a Salt in H1. It work hardens and is extremely easy to sharpen. After a decent amount of use some testing showed the PE salt had an edge RC of 62-64 and a SE had 66-67. In most cases the spine stays in the 55-58 range. It cuts like a laser and is damn near impossible to make rust. I mean if guys on this forum could'nt make it rust with saltwater baths, amonia baths, reverse annodizing with coke, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that its rust proof.
 
I only need about 2 inches of plain edge. So if a knife has a 4 inch blade, I do not mind if 30-50% of it is serrated. Sometimes I prefer it.

It seems most people here dislike combo edges, but I have found them to be VERY useful. Plain edges do some things better. Serrated edges do some things better. I understand the whole "combo edges do not give you enough of either do do any good" arguement, but I feel it only applies to smaller knives. With larger blades, a combo edge gives you enough of both and makes the knife very versatile.

With each knife I buy, whether I decide to get the plain edge, combo edge, or serrated edge (assume I have all three options) just depends on the specific knife, what I want to do with it, my mood at the moment, and the visuals of the knife. Some knives look great with a combo edge. Some look horrible.

Two real life examples:

When cutting plastic stretch wrap, a plain edge is better than a serrated edge. You can just lightly slice though it, while a serrated edge can hang up. When using a combo edge to cut open wrapped pallets, having around 30% of your edge serrated can reduce the effective blade length. Annoying.

When cutting hard plastic strap on pallets, using a plain edge can be tough. A serrated edge, however, makes very short work of the hard straps. As in, you simply touch the strap with the serrated edge and it just breaks open with no effort. Like a light saber. No plain edge, no matter how sharp, makes such short work of these straps, and no more than a fraction of an inch of serrations are needed. So when I have to cut these straps, I am very glad to have some of my edge dedicated to serrations.

Why not use a fully serrated knife? Because it is a waste in this case. I do not need 3 inches of serrations. I barely need one. And when I have to turn around and cut open a wrapped pallet, I am glad to have at least *some* plain edge.

YMMV.
 
Hair said:
When cutting hard plastic strap on pallets, using a plain edge can be tough. A serrated edge, however, makes very short work of the hard straps. As in, you simply touch the strap with the serrated edge and it just breaks open with no effort. Like a light saber. No plain edge, no matter how sharp, makes such short work of these straps, and no more than a fraction of an inch of serrations are needed. So when I have to cut these straps, I am very glad to have some of my edge dedicated to serrations.

Take a straight edge knife and reprofile the edge with a 120 grit stone. Next time you need to cut a strap all you'll have to do is hold the knife in a reverse grip, with the tip down, and pull towards yourself while rotating your wrist up a little. You basically want to pull the blade back toward yourself while dragging the edge through the plastic. I used this method all through highschool and part way through college working at best buy. With a rough finish like this you can break down boxes for hours with only a touch up every now and then from a pocket stone.

By doing this you can control how much of your edge is "serrated" simply by sharpening only a small portion of the blade with the rough 120 grit.
 
I prefer plain-edge knives.
I have never been unable to cut something because I was using a plain-edge knife.
 
LHD said:
Take a straight edge knife and reprofile the edge with a 120 grit stone. Next time you need to cut a strap all you'll have to do is hold the knife in a reverse grip, with the tip down, and pull towards yourself while rotating your wrist up a little. You basically want to pull the blade back toward yourself while dragging the edge through the plastic. I used this method all through highschool and part way through college working at best buy. With a rough finish like this you can break down boxes for hours with only a touch up every now and then from a pocket stone.
We are not talking about the same kind of strap- I can tell from the way you cut them- which is impossible for the type of strap I am refering to. The kind or strap I am talking about is about 1/4 thick and an inch wide and used to strap down pallats- sort of like metal bands, but it is plastic and joined by heat. I am sure your method of giving a rough edge to a portion of the blade works, but that portion is not as good at many types of cutting as the more polished portion of the blade, and so you have the same compromise as found on a combo edge. You just have a serrated portion that is better at slicing than a serrated blade, but not as good at sawing. So it is sort of like halfway between a plain edge and a combo edge. And while the method you describe is very useful, I think the combo edge compromise is just about perfect as I would rather have the two extremes rather than two shades of the same edge.

allenC said:
I prefer plain-edge knives.
I have never been unable to cut something because I was using a plain-edge knife.
No one is saying a plain edge is incapable of cutting certain things. But serrations make many tasks much easier. I have never been unable to cut something because I was using a combo edge. But sometimes a full plain edge makes the task easier.

They each have pros and cons and are better for certain tasks or groups of tasks. All three edges are capable of doing what the others do.
 
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