Thoughts on Quartz Movement on High End (Rolex, Omega, etc) Watches?

"I am the only one who mentioned the name Bush and thus my entire point was invalidated."

My question was, "Where did conservativism, NRA or Bush get mentioned?"

You never answered, not that it really matters.

Dude, you really ought to lighten up just a little. You'll probably live longer, and enjoy yourself a LOT more...
 
Good Afternoon All-

Wow, after thousands of posts on a variety of online forums I caused my first, genuine flamewar! How cool is that? :cool: Like it or not, the leader of the free world (collecting an annual $400K paycheck) looks juvenile with a plastic watch on his wrist coupled with a fine suit. Dressing properly for an occasion-of-state is primarily just common sense.

Getting back to the whole digital/analog/quartz/automatic thing, most people are probably better-off starting with a battery-powered, all-steel watch. It lets them determine if they're "into" the hobby without dropping a few thousand dollars.

One other thing...the Breitling Emergency with the ELT transmitter is now available to both the general public as well as licensed pilots. It costs a fortune for the Coast Guard or the Civil Air Patrol to send a few airplanes and helicopters looking for the person sending for help, so don't pull the 121.5 MHz tab without good reason. People always seem to ask about that particular watch whenever the topic turns to combination analog/digital faces.

Have fun,

~ Blue Jays ~
 
I have both mechanical (Omega) and quartz (Seiko and Citizen) watches. I love the mechanical watches but they are not as robust. If you intend to participate in an activity that involves a lot of vibration or repetitive snaps of the wrist (tennis) you probably shouldn't wear a mechanical watch. Personally, I don't see the point in quartz watches over $500. Both Seiko and Citizen offer well made quartz watches that IMHO look as good as a typical steel high end quartz watch. For example, Omega offers the Seamaster Professional in both quartz and automatic. I understand paying $1500+ for the complexity and longevity of a mechanical movement and a nice case, but I think that the quartz version is matched by some of the high end Seiko's.
 
I don't think I ever has an argument with your point regarding what type of watch is appropriate for dressed up occasions. I just felt it was cheap to use it as an excuse to bash a former president. Get over it, really. Also, although my terms weren't specicially mentioned, it does not matter. Like I said, they aren't far off. I am curious what you thought of our current president flying in on a multimillion dollar war machine and landing on a moving aircraft carrier? Pretty cool I bet.

Regardless, sorry you caught me right when I am started to get fed up with all the other forums I visit where I too have been posting THOUSANDS of messages. I have been involved with BBS (Bulleting Board Services) on dialup modems before the advent of the internet. I am no "newbie", only to this forum. I obviously appreciate your posts and the information you offer. I just hate tangents.

Anyway, I doubt the popularity of the emergency beacon watch. Aren't there already tools and units in place for the fishermen and sailors out there? I am no nautical expert but I can't imagine that the technology doesn't exist. What is the MSRP of the watch anyhow?

Gadgetman7 - I noticed you, and others put a limit on the price you'll pay for a quartz, but why? From your example, you would be suggesting that Omega is charging you a fair price on the mechanical version of a SMP but a very unfair price on a quartz version (since you attribute it to say a high end Seiko). I wonder if that is true and Omega only makes a Quartz version of an existing mechanical in order to boost the desirability. That is some great marketing. They are making all the huge profits off the quartz version then. Even when you think you are saving money, you actually aren't?
 
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Gadgetman7 - I noticed you, and others put a limit on the price you'll pay for a quartz, but why? From your example, you would be suggesting that Omega is charging you a fair price on the mechanical version of a SMP but a very unfair price on a quartz version (since you attribute it to say a high end Seiko). I wonder if that is true and Omega only makes a Quartz version of an existing mechanical in order to boost the desirability. That is some great marketing. They are making all the huge profits off the quartz version then. Even when you think you are saving money, you actually aren't?
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I don't think Omega is doing anything underhanded. There are people who don't want to wind a watch and need something more robust than a mechanical watch. These people also want the style of the Omegas and are willing to pay for that style. My personnel taste runs more to functionality than style. I will pay for the complexity of a mechanical watch but find the quality of the Seiko and Citizen quartz watches to be on par with the Omega's. I guess I am dodging your question though. Yes, I do feel that the Omega quartz watches are overpriced. I understand why though. Omega does not want to devalue the entire line by selling a "cheap" quartz watch.
 
Gadgetman - I absolutely agree with everything you said. But I will admit if I see a quartz and automatic Omega, it almost forces me to buy the auto version because buying the quartz version is like knowingly paying more. Sometimes I wish they wouldn't have the quartz option or if they did, not offer it in auto so I wouldn't have the problem.
 
"You have been very helpful with your contributions thus far. Please don't hijack my thread and turn it into a conservative, NRA, Bush Rules, rally."

"I am touchy because almost every hobby forum I am involved with always has right wing conservatists using it as an excuse to spew their Clinton Bashing and Bush Praising antics."

"I don't think I ever has an argument with your point regarding what type of watch is appropriate for dressed up occasions. I just felt it was cheap to use it as an excuse to bash a former president. Get over it, really. Also, although my terms weren't specicially mentioned, it does not matter. Like I said, they aren't far off. I am curious what you thought of our current president flying in on a multimillion dollar war machine and landing on a moving aircraft carrier? Pretty cool I bet."

Dude, you're amazing!
 
if ya want a quartz, get a TAG in my opinion, if ya wanna spend more $$ get a rolex or panarai auto. as far a reliability/ruggedness of autos, i have a '79 model seiko auto divers watch that has never had the back off, and still runs fine, and i have worn it swimming/running/lifting weights/ED use/for over 15 yrs, never a prob. imho a TAG is a good watch for the $$ though, have one of those too and no probs either.

i (and a lot of my buds, a few in the military) thought it was GREAT the way bush landed on the carrier, made me proud and brought a tear to my eye........god bless him!! sure it prob waisted some $$, so what, we(the US military/gov't) waste tons of money, 50K or so aint a biggie, clinton waisted a few $$ himself but i hate go into that (ie impeachment hearings)

greg
 
Greg,
You better watch what you say. You don't want to be accused of a hijacker now would you?

Now for the watch content. I am one of the few that own a quartz Omega Seamaster Pro. Why? Because I wanted a watch with a second hand that hacks instead of sweeps. The reason being is that I use my watch as a tool at work and I find it sometimes difficult to differentiate where the second hand is on my Seiko auto diver. My Omega has perfect movement and it makes it alot easier to administer meds, etc.
Matt

*Seriously, sygyzy, calm down. Any time you post a question, you get peoples opinions, deal with it.
 
Originally posted by Blue Jays
:rolleyes: Don't get me going on that buffoon...

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Okey, as long as you don't get me going on our current buffoon.;)
 
Good Evening All-

This thread is hilarious! Sygyzy, you totally crack me up!

The Breitling Emergency is available on the marketplace complete with a 121.5 MHz transponder. Once activated, it has to be returned to the factory for refurbishment/recalibration. It is not activated via impact like a typical shipboard or airplane ELT, but must be put into action by the wearer.

Some may consider it to be overkill, but it sure would be welcome if your primary unit failed to activate in a remote crash. Interestingly enough, there is a version called the Breitling Mission (or something like that...) that does not have the digital data window. MSRP is somewhere around $4000 the last time I checked.

It sounds like you made a good choice going with the Casio Protrek.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
Thank you all for allowing me to entertain you. I love how I am advised to lighten up and accept the opinions of others yet mine are dismissed as being comical or too extreme. Nice hypocrisy there.

SIFU1A - Why TAG's for quartz? Are they on top of the quartz game? I always thought TAG's were pretty pricey, so what is the benefit? Do they have some sort of special quartz design?

GronK - Ooh watch what you say around here..

Jazzman - By hack do you mean ticks? I thought a hacked movement referred to how the watch acts when you pull out the crown (?) to adjust the time. "Deal with it?" Good one cool guy. BTW, I am the only one that is calm here. I find this more amusing that most of you I'm sure. Don't worry, no hypertension here.
 
Originally posted by sygyzy

Why TAG's for quartz? Are they on top of the quartz game? I always thought TAG's were pretty pricey, so what is the benefit? Do they have some sort of special quartz design?
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No. They put off the shelf quartz movements in nice-looking cases. I've never been a fan of TAGs, especially considering the prices they want to charge. They are primarily selling advertising rather than watches. Just ask Tiger Woods.

By hack do you mean ticks? I thought a hacked movement referred to how the watch acts when you pull out the crown (?) to adjust the time.
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A hacking movement is one that stops the second hand when you pull the crown out.

BTW, I am the only one that is calm here. I find this more amusing that most of you I'm sure. Don't worry, no hypertension here.
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I'm calm. I can assure you that this has been one of the most amusing things that I've seen around here.
 
"BTW, I am the only one that is calm here."

Dude, you're so far from calm, it's pathetic. Go back and read your posts. Look at your own web site. That "Things I Hate" page is sad. Life is NOT that bad!

Freaking out when somebody calls ANY politician a buffoon is a sign of, well, you figure it out. I've admired many Presidents. If you were to call any of them a buffoon, I'd figure that's your opinion and let it go.

Dude, if I were you, I'd just drop the whole thing. The more you say, the worse you sound.

"I can assure you that this has been one of the most amusing things that I've seen around here."

Fishbulb, I second that.
 
L.O. Little - Don't worry dude, I enjoy life more than you can believe. I find humor in alot of things. You'd be surprised at the look on people's faces when they see that someone else put down into words the frustration of life's little worries. Your arguments are weak and are entirely based on the same revolving statement, "Dude, you're pathetic." As far as dropping it, you are fueling it as much as I so you must be enjoying this as well. We can go as long as you want. I never freaked out because someone called a president a baffoon. I could care less. My original statement was a request not to steal the thread and steer it on a tangent. Contact me via PM if you'd like or post here. Obviously you enjoy the attention.
 
somebody else may have started the tangential discussion, :rolleyes: , but i can see who's FEEDING it
 
my only thing w/TAG is i have had excellent luck w/them, and the lower end stuff isnt that high, i agree, over $12-1500, get a rolex/etc, much better value imho


greg
 
My preference is to stick to mechanical movements on high-end watches. I currently wear an Omega Speedy Auto Date. My reasoning is that a tough, durable, and relentlessly accurate quartz watch can be had for under $100USD. An example is the Timex Ironman that I bought in 1989 and finally retired last year. Something a little more stylish in Quartz can be had for under $300USD, such as the Luminox 3100 I got from Bill Yao already equipped with his excellent 660 dial. When I choose to pay over $2000USD for a watch, I have moved beyond accurate timekeeping in the same way that a knife costing over $1000USD is more than just a cutting tool. At the high-end I'm looking for a piece of art, in the case of a watch a finely tuned mechanism assembled by hand and infused with the skill of the maker.
 
Good Evening All-

Rev. Pete, yes...I feel the same way you do. A quartz movement and an automatic movement are almost at odds with one another. It almost seems that if you are looking for the precision-crafted watch, you might as well put an automatic movement inside it and truly get the whole package. You said it best when you described it as "art."

All of my watches are great when measured against their specific requirements. The IWC Portugieser 3714 is great with a starched shirt and tie, but doesn't go mountaineering. The Timex Triathlon is restricted to being paired with running shoes and shorts. Doing otherwise is somewhat absurd, regardless of your position or amount of income.

Some of the steel tool-watches (e.g. Fortis or the Yao-modified Seikos) do a fairly nice job of filling the area between the two.

Enjoy,

~ Blue Jays ~
 
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