Thoughts on renewing Symantec's Norton NAV & Internet Security

maybe they were doing maintenance or something, I just checked and got messages off it. shrug:confused:

Give it another shot when you get a chance?

Synghyn
 
Hi All-
Rat Finkenstein said:
I have this: http://www.ca.com
eTrust Internet Security Suite
Works great.
The federal government fined Computer Associates over $250 million for their illegal business activities. They subsequently terminated a bunch of innocent workers in order to obtain enough funds to make the payment. The managers who led this company are on their way to PRISON for embezzling millions from shareholders and criminally attempting to influence stock valuation.

The experience of this company is focused virtually 100% on mainframe computing environments. I'm not so sure I'd want to have security software from this unreliable company loaded onto MY personal hardware running Windows-based applications.

Just do a Google search...CA is with Enron, WorldCom, Tyco, Adelphia, and other criminal enterprises. Play it safe and keep their stuff off your machine. Stick with the Symantec/Norton tools for peace of mind.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
My firewall, antivirus, antispyware, etc., freeware, except for Webroot Spy Sweeper, for which I am happy to pay.
 
I also try to stay with the free programs: AVG Free, Spybot etc. After the recent Sony rootkit debacle I do not put much trust into the makers of any type of security software any more.

(Sony had created a copy protection system that installed on users´ computers without noticing, messed with the OS so that its files were cloaked from the user, phoned home data to Sony and both opened a serious security hole for virus makers and could not be uninstalled without destroying the CD drive´s driver. And the antivirus-companies went along with this for more than a year without warning their customers - in fact, Sony claims they had agreements with those companies to make sure there would be no warning.)

The makers of free software may screw me over just as well, but at least I don´t pay them for it.

Kristofer
 
Grey Area said:
I also try to stay with the free programs: AVG Free, Spybot etc. After the recent Sony rootkit debacle I do not put much trust into the makers of any type of security software any more.

I hang out on enough software forums to know who to trust and who not to. It takes TONS of time but is worth it.
 
I have a ton of freeware, as a matter of fact I test it for the company I work for, cheap batids that they are:rolleyes:

But I heard of Nod32 somewere else and I've been checking out the trial for a bit now, real nice program, amazingly configurable. The virus definitions can be updated as often as every 8 hours if you want. So yeah, it's a nice program if you want to mess with the settings.

Question is, do I wanna pay for it?:p Answer, nope sorry, I like it, but I have other solutions I like well enough, so I don't really feel like I need it. If I get the hook up, sweet, if not, no biggee. I will suggest it to my company's IT guys as something to look at as a company though.

I was keeping up with the Sony crap as well, man can you believe what they think they can get away with? Granted, left to me, and probably at least most of us, they would, but come on, we've got a lot of folks out here who take their products apart just for kicks. It's one thing when Microsoft drops the ball, but for Sony and others to put outright malicious code out there is just plain dumb. Never fails to amaze and amuse. And no, I didn't have any effected software.

Synghyn
 
Synghyn: been trying to get my brain back on school after 2 weeks with my brain shut off. I'll try to get the link sent again tonight.
 
Blue Jays said:
Hi All- The federal government fined Computer Associates over $250 million for their illegal business activities. They subsequently terminated a bunch of innocent workers in order to obtain enough funds to make the payment. The managers who led this company are on their way to PRISON for embezzling millions from shareholders and criminally attempting to influence stock valuation.

The experience of this company is focused virtually 100% on mainframe computing environments. I'm not so sure I'd want to have security software from this unreliable company loaded onto MY personal hardware running Windows-based applications.

Just do a Google search...CA is with Enron, WorldCom, Tyco, Adelphia, and other criminal enterprises. Play it safe and keep their stuff off your machine. Stick with the Symantec/Norton tools for peace of mind.

~ Blue Jays ~

No offense, but CA product has worked well, and is inexpensive. Why would I switch back to Norton, which doesnt work well, and hogs a huge percentage of my system resources, is expensive, and pretty much all out sucks.

I am not buying stock in CA, I am using a program they made- one that is vastly superior to norton. Are you saying that because some managers stole money earned from selling a product, that the product is bad?

I will switch to something else if their system and updates cease to exist, but for now it is working good.
 
On Windows I like AVG and ZoneAlarm. You can debate what's the best but I'd say that they are the best value, costing a grand total of $0.

For other security software I have Ad-Aware, Spybot Search & Destroy, TrueCrypt, GnuPG, and Eraser. Then there are other things like Stunnel which I use to secure VNC and Usenet access. The price is right on all of these.
 
Well, I did it--removed NAV and the Norton Firewall from my computer. I tried a couple of different online scans, and the Kaspersky site found more nasty stuff than the others. I had a total of 3 problems I didn't even know about despite running NAV, their Firewall, SpywareBlaster, AdAware and Spybot. I thought I was covered, but evidently not. So I plunked down for 2 years of the Kaspersky Personal Suite recommended in an above sticky. It cost $70.

Computer boots faster, runs much faster and I'm happier. No more cumbersome Norton Anti-Spam to await while it takes forever to delete spam.
 
Grey Area said:
I also try to stay with the free programs: AVG Free, Spybot etc. After the recent Sony rootkit debacle I do not put much trust into the makers of any type of security software any more.

(Sony had created a copy protection system that installed on users´ computers without noticing, messed with the OS so that its files were cloaked from the user, phoned home data to Sony and both opened a serious security hole for virus makers and could not be uninstalled without destroying the CD drive´s driver. And the antivirus-companies went along with this for more than a year without warning their customers - in fact, Sony claims they had agreements with those companies to make sure there would be no warning.)

....................
Kristofer



That almost sounds like what AOL has been doing to their customers/victims since they started.;):barf:
 
RobbW said:
Well, I did it--removed NAV and the Norton Firewall from my computer. I tried a couple of different online scans, and the Kaspersky site found more nasty stuff than the others. I had a total of 3 problems I didn't even know about despite running NAV, their Firewall, SpywareBlaster, AdAware and Spybot. I thought I was covered, but evidently not. So I plunked down for 2 years of the Kaspersky Personal Suite recommended in an above sticky. It cost $70.

Computer boots faster, runs much faster and I'm happier. No more cumbersome Norton Anti-Spam to await while it takes forever to delete spam.


After installing Norton Internet Security a year ago or so, I was shocked at the use of resources that bogged my computer down so badly, plus the locked up programs, etc. Hell, I had to shut the computer down manually as NIS froze that up every time too.

I ended up calling them about this and some east Indian told me that was good as it showed that NIS was doing it's job properly.:eek::rolleyes::jerkit:

I run Avast anti virus now with no troubles at all. In fact it found three viruses when I installed it that NIS had missed.
 
[/I run Avast anti virus now with no troubles at all. In fact it found three viruses when I installed it that NIS had missed.
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Finally avast is mentioned, I'm convinced ad-aware, and zonealarm belong on every computer, and my favorite anti-virus is avast, all are free and available at download.com
 
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