Ti Gen4 Pikal and Lagriffe Pikal Ver2

What's the edge holding like on the Carbide/Ti models? And can it be sharpened to the same level of a more typical steel?

The edge holding of carbidize Ti is surprisingly good. It will hold a good working edge for a very long time and is a breeze to touch up. It can take a hair shaving edge but does not take a ultra fine high polished edge edge like conventional steel edges.
 
Hmm. Be nice to keep in the bathroom and not have to worry about rust.

I have a feeling you're going to wind up with a lot of my money in the near future. :D:D
 
Also, perfect for having in the pocket at the beach as well ;) A friend of mine keeps a Ti Lagriffe Pikal in his gym shorts while working out.
 
Hahah that person would be me. Love carrying my Ti lagriffe pikal everywhere and not worrying about a thing.

In regards to the sharpness/edge retention of the Ti carbide edge, in my personal experience, a fresh edge is still stupid sharp (just not as "smooth" as tradition steel due to the carbides), however after some use on cardboard/wood/etc., it will slightly lose that fresh pop, but still super effective at any task you give it. The carbide edge REALLY helps with the edge retention, and sharpening/touching up is as simple as stropping it on some leather and compound.
 
Sounds great. I should have asked these before I ordered the S35VN one. Oh well. It's the perfect excuse to get a second one as soon as I can.:thumbup: Plus, if the edge is just naturally more toothy, that's great for defense use.
 
I have 2 la griffe pikals (actually one is nominally my GF's to carry around - works great with a spyderco G clip and can be carried w/ no belt - and one is for my mom's Bday gift) and can attest that they do take a very, very sharp edge. I think functionally speaking, for the purpose of a pikal style knife, the limiting factor in causing damage would not be sharpness with the ti knife. What I mean is that with a "working" knife that requires extreme finesse in fine cuts, I would probably favor steel (having also handled Ban's 3v knife and seeing what it can do), but that's really a nitpicky point. With a defensive knife where near-maximal force is used, and there is very little finesse in that sense, ti or steel will both work great.

What I'm trying to say, perhaps unsuccessfully, is that there is a curve of force applied vs sharpness necessary for a given outcome. At one end of the spectrum we could have surgical tools where we want finesse = less force applied for a clean cut. At the other end of the spectrum we could have a convex ax used to split wood where max force is applied and sharpness is less important. The sharpness becomes less of an issue as more force is applied (not arguing it's a non-issue, but with Ban's knives, you are getting, subjectively, about 15% more top-end sharpness from the steel knives)
 
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