TIBURON- bad experience. SO FAR- to be continued...?

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tinfoil hat timmy

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Considering the sellers feedback, I'm surprised that I need to come here to get the matter at hand resolved. I'm sad to say that, so far, I'm having a bad experience with the BF Member TIBURON.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1251471-Battle-Mistress-Ergo

I purchased a BUSSE COMBAT ERGO BATTLE MISTRESS from Tiburon. He was nice enough to let me make two payments. Thanks! Nice enough. Until the blade arrived after my second payment, communication was consistently regular.

I decided that the paracord d guard on the handle wasn't for me. I took it off. Unfortunately it was before examining the blade thoroughly. After doing so, I noticed there was a section of blade near the choil easily an inch long that had some what I would call rolling, and/or chipping. The condition of this area was beyond my skill to sharpen.

Needless to say I was dissapointed. I decided to ask what his return policy was. He said that I could send the blade to Busse Combat o have the shop resharpen it, or send it to him for a refund. I'll post a screenshot of his email when I'm able.

Considering I paid $470 for the blade, I thought it silly to not be able to use it before sending it in to be sharpened. So I sent it back to Tiburon.

My tracking info says that it arrived on Monday. I sent an email after it arrived. No response. Ive tried many times to contact him with no response.

I'm certain that it doesn't take much to respond to an email. He'd done it many times before. Promptly at that.

Now he has my money and the blade, and each day I get more and more pessimistic about receiving my refund. I have even offered to have him send the blade back if he wants to keep the dough.

No response.

If Tiburon could chime in, and let me know what's up through email or this thread, I'd appreciate it.

Once he decides to make it right, I'll eliminate his negative feedback and this thread.
 
I sent him a message with a link to this thread.

You should not have left him negative feedback so soon.
 
If there's any way for me to change it I will. If not, then I officially suck. I figured it would get his attention. I couldn't think of another way to do so.

I want nothing more than for this matter to be resolved quickly with both parties happy with the outcome. Believe me.
 
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You already trashed him and left negative feedback, then why does the title say "SO FAR-to be continued"? Looks like a done deal to me

Again, communication is the key......

One question however; did you remove the Paracord handle wrapping?
 
WOW..here we go again..
A member in GOOD STANDINGS being pulled
thru the mud..AND on top of that..The immaturity
spoken in VOLUMES of how this is being handled.
NEG feedback without even considering an accident happened
a death etc.. REALLY..
Cant anyone stop for a minute and realize a member does have
a life and things on their plate to handle.
I m certain..This will be handled..He will NOT give in and ruin his
OUTSTANDING reputation over this oversite.
YOU simply need to be a bit patient..
As I have stated openly before..These newer members and
the short fuse....All I can say is WOW...............................:thumbdn:
You already bashed his character and left him NEG feedback..
YOU MY FRIEND go on my ""Ignore and DO NOT DEAL with LIST Right NOW"
 
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I'm simply stating the facts. Its not that hard to say "hey, this and that happened, hang in there". Takes two seconds.

Maybe if it were YOUR $470 in a perfect strangers hands, you may feel a bit different. Forgive me for being a bit paranoid. In my life I've found that more often than not, people plain suck. Needless to say, I do hope that there is a way to change the feedback that I gave When the situation is concluded.

Wolfman, yes, I did remove it. It was returned with the blade. The fact that there had been NO COMMUNICATION is why I'm upset. If there had been dialogue between us since the blade arrived with the seller, I don't think there would be a problem.
The "to be continued" is simply implying that I'm waiting for communication from the seller and hopefully can edit this post as to how I over reacted perhaps? If someone wanted a refund for something I sold them, and they sent it back, once I received it I'd drop 'em a line. Even if it's just a quick note saying that they may have to wait a bit for the situation to be resolved.

I didn't think it was that big of a deal, and would be easily fixed once the situation is resolved.

I'm sure there are many more out there that feel like ripping me a new one is the way to go. Feel free if it makes you feel better.
 
I'm sure tiburon will take care of the refund, he has a great reputation here and I believe I've dealt with him once or twice with no issues at all. I wouldn't sweat it.

Sometimes the best thing to do in these scenarios is to wait another day or two - they usually work themselves out and the person has a legitimate reason for not being around.

If you're really concerned about it, you can always open a PayPal dispute to get your money back (as long as you have proof the item was returned to him) if you paid via PayPal Goods. Takes a little while to get your refund, but you'll get it as long as you paid via Goods and can prove the item was returned with tracking information.
 
Forgive me if the following is out of line here (it is very common to request information/details in a situation like this, in my other hobby):

You agreed to purchase on 1/11. You paid via 2 postal money orders (or, at least the final payment was via money order).
When did you receive the knife? And did you make contact with Tiburon after it was received but before you noticed the issue with the blade? The reason I ask is that if you indicated that you received the knife & had no complaints, there was no reason for him to hold your funds.

The knife was returned, and delivered on Monday - you were complaining in W&C early Wednesday morning, and posted this thread well before normal hours on Thursday. That part of the timeline considered, leaving negative feedback seems premature. I get that the lack of communication is what is concerning you...but, you haven't given a reasonable amount of time to receive your refund in the manner your payment was sent. It isn't as if he can just click a button and you magically have your money back - he's got to go get a money order and mail it.
 
If he was nice enough to be patient as in accepting two payments and his communication was solid throughout the transaction and even when you were ultimately unhappy he gave you two options to come to a happy resolution....why would he all of a sudden have a change in character?

Seems like the above are all stellar character traits and someone I'd be happy to do business with. Maybe take all of that into consideration next time prior to jumping the gun?

Some new members don't understand how feedback works and that it can't simply be changed on a whim. I know it took me awhile to understand it.


Either way I hope this works out for you both. Unfortunately though you've left a scar on someone's feedback and future potential deals for him may be difficult now because of it.

Unfortunate.
 
Come on man, you could give the guy more than a couple days before posting negative stuff about them. As I mentioned in your other thread ,before you actually posted his name, the guy has plenty of sales with 100% positive feedback and not much time has passed. I know having that money involved makes it difficult to be patient, but right now it will reflect poorly on you if there are mitigating circumstances involved.
 
hhmoore said:
You agreed to purchase on 1/11. You paid via 2 postal money orders (or, at least the final payment was via money order).
When did you receive the knife? And did you make contact with Tiburon after it was received but before you noticed the issue with the blade? The reason I ask is that if you indicated that you received the knife & had no complaints, there was no reason for him to hold your funds.

The knife was returned, and delivered on Monday - you were complaining in W&C early Wednesday morning, and posted this thread well before normal hours on Thursday. That part of the timeline considered, leaving negative feedback seems premature. I get that the lack of communication is what is concerning you...but, you haven't given a reasonable amount of time to receive your refund in the manner your payment was sent. It isn't as if he can just click a button and you magically have your money back - he's got to go get a money order and mail it.
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Excellent post. I agree with you 100%

Things happen in peoples lives and they cannot always respond immediately.

Trashing an excellent, long standing members reputation because you are obsessive about an instant response is disgraceful.

tinfoil hat timmy said:
I didn't think it was that big of a deal, and would be easily fixed once the situation is resolved.
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This cavalier attitude to trashing a good mans reputation sums up all that needs to be said about you.
 
I would agree with previous posts that if he was kind enough to give you time to make two payments.....simply return the favor. I get you're irritated about the lack of communication....would be myself. However, I'd continue my efforts AND give the man some time. You've clearly jumped the shark here and the immediate negative feedback was simply not warranted.....regardless of whether you can have it removed or not.....that move alone will cause others to seriously consider whether to deal with you in the future.
 
There are so many things wrong here and none of them have anything to do with the seller.

First, you can't leave feedback for a deal that was not completed. A deal is not completed until both parties are satisfied.

Second, he let you pay with money orders over a period of weeks yet you expect him to return your money in less than 3 days? Do you know how the post office works? Mail isn't instantaneous. It has to physically travel across land, sea, or air to get to you. That takes time. Often about 3 days. He is no doubt refunding you with a money order through the mail not some magical way that puts the money in miraculously in your wallet. He offorded you the benefit of the doubt and you didn't even come close to giving him the same courtesy. Did you ever stop and think for a second that the MO might be in the mail right now? Frankly, I wouldn't want to return your emails either.

Third, you open a thread here bashing a good member over your mistakes and unrealistic expectations. Nice one.

Fourth, how did you get the paracord off? If you cut it you modified the item and then asked for a refund. Not cool.

Fifth, have you ever been away from your email for 3 days? If not, I would suggest getting out a little more. There is a lot to experience in the world (maybe even using knives!) that does not revolve around email.

GIZMOMAN said:
WOW..here we go again..
A member in GOOD STANDINGS being pulled
thru the mud..AND on top of that..The immaturity
spoken in VOLUMES of how this is being handled.
NEG feedback without even considering an accident happened
a death etc.. REALLY..
Cant anyone stop for a minute and realize a member does have
a life and things on their plate to handle.
I m certain..This will be handled..He will NOT give in and ruin his
OUTSTANDING reputation over this oversite.
YOU simply need to be a bit patient..
As I have stated openly before..These newer members and
the short fuse....All I can say is WOW...............................:thumbdn:
You already bashed his character and left him NEG feedback..
YOU MY FRIEND go on my ""Ignore and DO NOT DEAL with LIST Right NOW"
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Giz is right. We are seeing a lot of threads like this from newer members. Folks need to calm down, look at situations logically, and if you can't do that don't bother dealing here. This sort of crap is not wanted.

Only one member here is going on my ignore list and it is not Tiburon.
 
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I will agree with others. Complete lack of patience here. Some people are just wound too tight. It wasn't that long ago here that I had someone request a return of a knife purchased (for a questionable reason). I of course offered a refund regardless. Within hours of the PO delivering it to my home; this person was already PM'ing me wanting their money. A couple of hours later, an email and threats to file charges with paypal, complain to mods, etc. They then even filed a case with Paypal that evening. I really could not believe it.
Some people are so impatient and self centered that they get an imbalanced view of life and the world.
It is best to make a note of it, take the high road, and just do not do biz with them in the future.
 
can you put the paracord guard back on or did you cut it off.do you have pics of the blade.if you cut the parachord off and he is even entertaining a refund he is a saint and does not deserve this.if you damaged the product and dont want it anymore .rolling if a edge can easly be fixed but the fact he is trusting you and giving you a refund after you cut of the parachord speaks volumes to me.to me it seems you just didnt like the knife.give him a break.I cant believe you gave him a neg.hope the mods can remove it and give u one.on my no deal list now
 
If you returned the item but have not received funds than the deal is not done - so you can not leave feedback (thems the rules). Once you receive your refund it wil result in a "no deal happened" - again, you cannot leave feedback (again, thems the rules). If you would like to continue to purchase things on the exchange I think you should go read the rules first.
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
Considering the sellers feedback, I'm surprised that I need to come here to get the matter at hand resolved. I'm sad to say that, so far, I'm having a bad experience with the BF Member TIBURON.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1251471-Battle-Mistress-Ergo

I purchased a BUSSE COMBAT ERGO BATTLE MISTRESS from Tiburon. He was nice enough to let me make two payments. Thanks! Nice enough. Until the blade arrived after my second payment, communication was consistently regular.

I decided that the paracord d guard on the handle wasn't for me. I took it off. Unfortunately it was before examining the blade thoroughly. After doing so, I noticed there was a section of blade near the choil easily an inch long that had some what I would call rolling, and/or chipping. The condition of this area was beyond my skill to sharpen.

Needless to say I was dissapointed. I decided to ask what his return policy was. He said that I could send the blade to Busse Combat o have the shop resharpen it, or send it to him for a refund. I'll post a screenshot of his email when I'm able.

Considering I paid $470 for the blade, I thought it silly to not be able to use it before sending it in to be sharpened. So I sent it back to Tiburon.

My tracking info says that it arrived on Monday. I sent an email after it arrived. No response. Ive tried many times to contact him with no response.

I'm certain that it doesn't take much to respond to an email. He'd done it many times before. Promptly at that.

Now he has my money and the blade, and each day I get more and more pessimistic about receiving my refund. I have even offered to have him send the blade back if he wants to keep the dough.

No response.

If Tiburon could chime in, and let me know what's up through email or this thread, I'd appreciate it.

Once he decides to make it right, I'll eliminate his negative feedback and this thread.
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Leaving negative feedback was certainly premature, however, I certainly understand you being paranoid. I have been scammed on the forums once before, and when someones got the product and your money it can be unnerving. He exercised a lot of patience with you, and you shouldve been a little more patient with him.

That said, if someone returned a knife to me, and i had the knife and their 500$, I would absolutely not lack communication for 24 hours, or even 72 hours for that manner. If he got hit by a bus, then its totally understandable.
 
wow....


Poor form for the tin hat guy.


I guess instant gratification is too slow nowadays


P
 
So a buyer with 1 feedback score buys a knife over a period of a couple weeks from a seller with 294 positive feedback notices something that could either be fixed by hand or sent out for warranty after removing part of the knife and then gets upset when the refund isn't given instantaneously? #1 Go outside, some of us have lives beyond BF and jobs to where we can't be on here constantly and from his recent activity he hasn't been online in a minute #2 I want your problems in life.
 
stonproject said:
Leaving negative feedback was certainly premature, however, I certainly understand you being paranoid. I have been scammed on the forums once before, and when someones got the product and your money it can be unnerving. He exercised a lot of patience with you, and you shouldve been a little more patient with him.

That said, if someone returned a knife to me, and i had the knife and their 500$, I would absolutely not lack communication for 24 hours, or even 72 hours for that manner. If he got hit by a bus, then its totally understandable.
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Wait just a second. This tinfoil guy screwed the seller over. The seller kindly allowed tinfoil to make payments on a knife, setting it aside and unavailable from other prospective buyers. Then when he gets it, he changes its original configuration. Then he wants a refund. Refund agreed to. Knife is returned and tinfoil waits 2.5 days of no contact before flaming a well respected member with lots of feedback. Why not wait until a refund could have been made before the flame out? The mail takes 2-3 days depending on where you live. Is no communication for 2.5 days really equal with 2 flame threads and negative feedback (left against forum rules)? I wouldn't have communicated with this ungrateful person either. Just sent him his money and be done with him.
 
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