Timascus

Roger
I may be wrong but
I had thought for many years now that Patent pending is just what it implies the Patent is pending (the searches).
I'll have to look into it now. :(
 
I don't think your going to get in any trouble besides possibly going up in flames making YOUR OWN timascus. The key is that you make it for yourself on a knife that is for you. You can't sell it, or call it timascus, or teach a million people how to make it. Because that would be profiting from someone elses invention and investment without their permision. For your own personal use, I really doubt any one would care, especially considering the good reputation of the guys who have the patent.
Think about it, how many people have made a wave opener on a folder? how many of them got prosecuted?
Do you think spyderco will care if you drill a hole in the blade of a knife that your making for yourself? If you made the knife for yourself theres very little chance that it prevented them from making a sale.
 
Timascus is trademarked and the process for making it is patent pending.

Other patents in knives are the Spyderco opening hole (patent expired), Ken Onion Speed Safe, the AXIS lock by Bill McHenry and Jason Williams and the Emerson Wave. I'm sure there are others. If a someone makes a knife for personal use with any of the features I don't think there will be a problem. If the knifemaker sells knives with the features above I'm sure he will get a "Cease and Desist" letter from an attorney.

The uses for Timascus extend far beyond the knife community. In 2003 you will see some interesting items make from the material.

Last year we had a table at the Blade Show in Atlanta. The highlight of the show for me was showing Timascus to Bill Moran and giving him a billet. He said he would use it on one of his knives. At the show Tom got the idea of licensing Timascus to knifemakers by having them pay a fee to ABS. Our attorney will determine if we can do this. However, we are still debating teaching the process to others because of the dangers involved. We damaged lots of equipment and scared ourselves badly during development. You can be seriously injured or killed if you are not very careful. If anyone wants to try and make Timascus make sure you have lots of buckets of sand to put out fires. Also have someone standing away from the area but close enough to dump sand on you if you get hit with liquid titanium.

If anyone wants to buy a billet send me a note or call and we will make what you want.
 
Chuck
sand in fresh burns and burning your place down at the least.
If That don't put the brakes on nothing will:(
But I'll bet you someone will try it though.
let it be said you've been warned here many times guys.
 
I Email this thread to Wild Bill Mc. and this is his response.
"Thanks, seen it before, telling everybody to go ahead and steal
intellectual property. But I figure we`ll just let Benchmade go ahead and have fun suing people."
 
George, I don't think Benchmade has anything to do with Timascus, and I am definitely against anyone stealing "intellectual property". ;) :D
 
I bought a matched set of Timascus scales for a folder from Chuck Bybee. This stuff is so pretty I havent made a blade worthy of it to use yet. It gets such vibrant colors that my damascus pales next to it. It sells and it is the new wave. Just ask Tom Mayo. Chuck, Tom and Bill are really on to something here. Run with it.
 
Other patents in knives are the Spyderco opening hole (patent expired), Ken Onion Speed Safe, the AXIS lock by Bill McHenry and Jason Williams and the Emerson Wave. I'm sure there are others. If a someone makes a knife for personal use with any of the features I don't think there will be a problem. If the knifemaker sells knives with the features above I'm sure he will get a "Cease and Desist" letter from an attorney
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Mike: The statement was pertaining to the Axis Lock.
 
I just finished up my first Timascus folder and can say the stuff's pretty cool looking. Can't even imagine how they work with it at those temps! Picture to follow. :)
 

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Thanks Bill, the person the knife was made for sent me the wood. The wood I believe was Brown Mallee Burl.
 
I've had the idea in my head of pattern welding titanium for a few years now (way before I ever heard that anyone had pulled it off) and If I were to go ahead and make it now would that be in violation of a pattent? assuming I would make it to sell on my knives. I haven't a clue as to how anyone else has done it I just know how I would try it. That, in my opinion is not "stealing" anyones ideas because it was MY IDEA. That sort of thing happens all the time. Coming up with a new idea is usually the easy part, what sets people apart is following through with it and investing in pattenting and marketing your idea. I decided not to try it because of all the difficulties, dangers, and costs involved so I don't know if I could have done it right anyway. I think that it is way cool that someone has figured out how to make it work and at a fairly reasonable price too. As soon as I can afford to you can bet your ass I'll be on the phone with Chuck to get me some.
 
as I had posted before
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a not so funny thing..
did you know a man named Gray invented the phone first.
but somebody,, named Bell,, got to the patent office before
he did, now is that fair?
look it up...some secrets need to be secret. that is a big
claim to fame to take from someone ..
I am a Gray:(
*** but don't wait to long, someone will come up with the same
idea and put it to use.
 
I very much doubt a patent can be applied to a technique that has been used for dozens of years by many others. You are diffusion bonding (mokume gane , damascus are basically the same process by using heat and pressure) different metals ( grades or different compositions) using a shieldinggas or in any other oxigen free environnement. Why would i and why am i making my own titanium damast....i can make it much cheaper and in any form and shape i prefer....i also do not need to wait long if i want it . Just fire up the forge and a short time later its done. If i want to sell it to another knifemaker and i do not sell it under the timascus name brand who is ever going to prevent me from doing so??
 
Good morning, HoutmeyersP, and welcome to Bladeforums.
I'm going to suggest that you check out the date of the posts before responding to threads. This one is almost 18 years old (before the 'dozen' of years you mention in your post), and this is called necroposting and is generally frowned upon here. If you feel that you want to add some new, useful information to an older thread, it's more accepted to start a new thread and then link to the older one.
 
As I wrote in a previous post, the process of making Timascus® is patented and the name is trademarked. The patent and trademark apply to all of the EU including Belgium.

You can make your own titanium laminate, you cannot use my patent or the name Timascus to sell material. If you do, you are in violation of EU patent and trademark law.
 
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