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Hello, my name is Dennis and I am a knife addict. It seems that these days everyone is coming up with a new design. Pretty bad when you have a addiction. As excited as I get about new designs, and I am sure we all do, what about the older designs? I recently purchased an M-2 AFCK. A really great design that stands the test of time. Are there any other older knife designs that still give the new knives a run for the money? I dont have one, but I understand that the Buck 110 is still quite popular.

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Loveless will be copied forever. That's about as classic as you can get. Seems a lot easier to copy it than improve on.
 
Wow -- I thought this thread was going to be about old designs ... not from the last few years or even the last few decades. Um ... knives have been around for millenia ... if we use the Empire State Building to represent the history of knives, where does the AFCK appear in that history? Near the top of the top coat of paint on the top of the dirigible mooring mast....

If you want to talk about time-tested designs, how about the Bowie? It's been around since the Bronze Age....


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Very true Cougar. In the grand scheme of things the AFCK isn't very old at all. However, it is definately a classic and it seems as though it has been around for an eternity. It is definately a proven design.

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"Those who trade essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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The Randall combat knives haven't changed much in 50 years. There may be fancier knives out there, but the Randalls were designed to be taken off to war.

The Buck 110 is heavy, but is strong and well designed as a folding hunting and utility knife. Get one with a BG42 blade and you've got got a top notch working knife.

The basic Swedish Mora knives will go on forever.
 
Yeah, not to mention; stockman, trappers, toothpicks and a whole bunch of classic patterns, I'm pretty sure the Barlow goes back to 18th century. Now we're talikng about standing the test of time. Classics!
 
Jack knives have been around for a real long time, and they're still fairly poplular. Theres one or two advertised as carving/whittling/pocket/shop knives in one of my catalogs.I guess there good for about everything.

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Actually, the more you get into knife lore the easier it is to see that there are very few "new" knife designs. Most of the "new" stuff is just the latest rendition of an old classic design. Perhaps, Conk and Hibbens and some of the other art knife makers are comming up with some original(sometimes wild) designs; but, that's about it.
 
The Finish Pukka, the Japanese sword and tantos have been around for centuries, if not milleniums...

And they are still some of the best designs you can get.

Many knife makers say that all the time - don't think you invented anything - if you think so - its probably because you don't know enough about the history and older designs.

BTW - that's why I don't like the "tone" of ellishewitz (sp?) slogan: "following no one.." but he is young and VERY talented, and he will get better as he will grow. We all do. Or at least we should.



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I can think of several classics. The Camillus and SAK basic tool knives are classics and probably the most universally accepted knives. Generally speaking, a person has to acting pretty crazy for a Camillus Army or SAK knife to seen as a weapon! Although it is a much newer design, the original Leatherman multitool is surely a classic. It is one of the few truly new ideas to come along in recent years. Finally, I think the Spyderco line with its Enduras, Delicas, Police, Standards etc. are classics.
 
How about the Marble's Woodcraft? Been around 85 yrs. The current edition is about 25% bigger (the fieldcraft a little smaller) though. A lot of manufacturers and even a few custom makers have paid tribute to this design with their own renditions.


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Shame on me. Just as soon as I made my last post I reached for my knife to cut open some boxes. Pulled out my blade, and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I forgot to mention a truly classic folding knife. Here is a knife that is only slightly over 10 years old, yet even with all the recent folder developments in the last decade, can still run with the big dogs. Gotta be my Sebenza
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