Tinder and tinder cases...

I am in the process of hand making these in colaboration with a Canadian Survival instructor... I find them very practical.
Rick



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Magnussen, feel free to email me about the neck rig with the fire steel, striker and fat wood, beautiful work.:thumbup: Chris
 
A nice rendition of the old trapper's "makin's", or strike-a-light kit. I see you included one of Tedd's brass tobacco tins and a percussion cap tin. I wasn't sure Tedd Cash was still making these. They are/were available in German silver and iron too. BTW, that is a magnifying lens in the lid, gents. Nice kit.

Codger:thumbup:
 
I am in the process of hand making these in colaboration with a Canadian Survival instructor... I find them very practical and am looking forward to selling these publically soon.
Rick

Beautiful stuff, Rick.

The Canadian Instructor, David or Gino, by any chance?

Doc
 
Oh, I like a lot of tinders. Birch bark is my favorite, but I use jute and PJ balls or fire straws to, along with the relighting birthday candles.

For containers... Little zipper bags, pill bottles, whatever works. My most robust is made out of a piece of 2" PVC, an endcap, and screw-on end. Packed the "bottom" with cotton wool, packed it about a third full with matches, added a mini bic, four relight candles, a couple of firestraws, and then topped it off with a pair of votive candles and enough jute to keep it from rattling. It's big, it's bulky, but it floats, it's water tight, and it would probably survive being run over by a car. :)

Does it get hot where you are? Just wondering, but what if it gets hot enough inside to ignite something? KABOOM!!!!?
 
I would most definitely be interested in the neck kit and at least one of the pouches. Very nice work.
 
I'm ready to hear you all shout BLASPHEMY!!!!

But come one guys... firesteels, vaseline soaked cottonballs, sawdust, pine needles, firestraws, char cloths - etc

I'm sure this has been said before, but seriously, why not simply keep one of those jet-type butane lighters (not the bic type) and a couple esbit tabs and call it a day????

Is it just the "adventure/fun" factor or the "I can do it the hard way" attitude?

I don't intend for this to be a combative arguement. I'd just like to hear your angle on carrying a jet-type butane lighter and esbit tabs for emergency firestarting.
 
The majority of folks here are talking about using a firesteel (or even flint and steel) for their fire needs. The other things mentioned are various forms of useful tinder.

The firesteel doesn't lose a screw and break, it doesn't run out of gas or fail to work based on temperature or weather. It works all the time, wet or dry, hot or cold, for thousands of uses. Lighters don't.

Plus, a firesteel plus some fatwood (or cotton or other choice tinder) weighs less than the lighter.
 
For me... I like traveling back in time during every bush experience... I find it very calming and relaxing... no rush, no schedules, no watches.. I simplify while at the same time make it a challange. That is just my perspective on things. There are many times I wish I could just flick my thumb and have instant fire but at the end of the day I feel proud of myself for going without.
We are all in it for different reasons... maybe you wish to explore the bush more and worrying about fire, water and food would only keep you from doing what you want... that works for you and makes you happy... go for it. This is my list of fire sources while in the woods in order of preference to convenience.

1. Fire by friction - Primitive - Bowdrill, handdrill, fireplough. (Haven't tried firepiston very often but intend to)
2. Flint & steel and magnifying lens - Traditional - using charcloth, tinder fungus and whatever else I can get to work.
3. Ferrocerium rod (firesteel) and scraper- Modern - This has replaced the lighter for convenience as far as I'm concerned.

Rick
 
I'm ready to hear you all shout BLASPHEMY!!!!

But come one guys... firesteels, vaseline soaked cottonballs, sawdust, pine needles, firestraws, char cloths - etc

I'm sure this has been said before, but seriously, why not simply keep one of those jet-type butane lighters (not the bic type) and a couple esbit tabs and call it a day????

Is it just the "adventure/fun" factor or the "I can do it the hard way" attitude?

I don't intend for this to be a combative arguement. I'd just like to hear your angle on carrying a jet-type butane lighter and esbit tabs for emergency firestarting.

K.I.S.S.

I will still be easily making fires with my firesteel when your lighter is out of fuel or broken. Esbit tabs stink and are only good for one thing, vaseline cotton in straws is good for lots of things. I also know and use lots of natural tender with my firesteel with no worries, so if my cotton runs out I am still good. Chris
 
Sorry... I think I strayed away from the original intent of this thread.... As far as tinder and tinder cases go .... I only carry one source of "emergency" tinder and try to find natural materials for everyday use. My fatwood stick is selfcontained and waterproof... and I keep charcloth and jute in a tin.

Rick
 
Guys I didn't mean to upset anyone... I carry a firesteel myself (with a bit of dryer lint for when I'm lazy, and two pieces of Wet Tinder for emergency purposes...)

I always carry a lighter because that's just the smart thing to do - you have to be as smart as a bucket of shrimp if you don't agree with that.

Like Magnussen said, I too enjoy being able to start a fire the ol fashioned way...

... but you guys are in a survival thread. I read so many people on this forum whose emergency survival kit, BOB, etc contain all of the aforementioned with the exception of carrying a lighter.

What gives?
 
Every person that posts here EDCs a BIC or similar, it's been discussed to death, the firesteel is just bombproof. Chris
 
I have to be honest and say that I don't carry a lighter don't use lighters and don't own a lighter. (I do have a BBQ lighter somewhere in the kitchen but my wife uses that for candles and the like) That's just my choice... For me the are unnecessary. I'll start a new thread so you can begin the bashing without highjacking this thread... it's all good:thumbup:
Rick
 
I have to be honest and say that I don't carry a lighter don't use lighters and don't own a lighter. (I do have a BBQ lighter somewhere in the kitchen but my wife uses that for candles and the like) That's just my choice... For me the are unnecessary. I'll start a new thread so you can begin the bashing without highjacking this thread... it's all good:thumbup:
Rick

If you are talking about me I am not going to bash you or anyone else, sorry for the hijack.
 
I am in the process of hand making these in colaboration with a Canadian Survival instructor... I find them very practical and am looking forward to selling these publically soon.
Rick

Here is a preview site on myspace... www.myspace.com/wildertools


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Although I have little disposable income I am interested in the pouch and the traditional flint/steel. P.S. Love the snaps that resemble coinage. Very nice touch.
 
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