tinder materials for fire by friction.....know any great ones???

Ming65 said:
I use the dried sap from a blackboy tree here in west oz

http://www.australiaplants.com/Xanthorrhoea.htm

Stuff is damn near explosive and will light up in any weather.

There are quite a few hardwood trees and shrubs in drier regions that are oily or resinous and are very flammable, such Eucalyptus in Australia, chamise in California, and rosemary in southern Europe. The resin or oil is actually separate from the sap but may ooze out when the tree or shrub is injured. If you can't find any globs of resin then dead twigs and leaves from the same plant may work.

See my discussion of pitch vs. sap in conifers at http://www.swampratknifeworks.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=000761. Contrary to popular belief they're not the same. Pitch in conifers (and the resins or oils in some hardwoods) is hydrocarbon-based, is very flammable, and protects the tree. Sap is water-based and brings nutrients to the plant's tissues just like blood brings nutrients to ours. Both may ooze out of a freshly-cut cut branch or stump, but sap is watery and mostly evaporates while pitch tends to form sticky globs that slowly dry out.

Bill D.
 
The best for me is just a plain old cotton ball (real cotton) and a dab of vasoline patrolium jelly, or you can soak cotton balls in melted bees wax and these will burn up to 20 minutes depending on how much bees wax is in the cotton ball.
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I have used cypress bark (Taxodium spp.) a few times for tinder and it worked OK if I remember correctly. I have used cypress bark more for cordage and it does well for that.

Yes, scientific names are great, particularly if you travel. Dendrology (tree and plant id) is a hobby of mine. When I used to travel around the southeast and work with other foresters, rangers, etc., it always amazed me how many different common names there were for the same tree or plant. Or how many different species can be called "haw".

And there is always what my professor taught me if you weren't sure what you were looking at... It was either a LGF or BFT.

Also, some plants are flammable when green. Saw palmetto (Serenoa repens) is. So is Wax Myrtle (Myrica cerifera) aka Southern Bayberry, both has flammable oil on their leaves. You can even see the oil glands with a 10x handlens on the underside of wax myrtle. Makes a good natural insect repellent if you crush the leaves and rub on your exposed skin.
 
Quiet Bear said:
I have used cypress bark (Taxodium spp.) a few times for tinder and it worked OK if I remember correctly. I have used cypress bark more for cordage and it does well for that..

This is another good exmple of how common names can be confusing!

When explorers and settlers came to America from England, they ran into a lot of unfamiliar plants, some of which they gave names from out of the Bible such as laurel, myrtle, cedar, and cypress. The plants known by these names in the U.S. generally are not close relatives of their old-world Biblical namesakes.

To most Americans, "cypress" means the bald cypress or similar trees (Taxodium species to botanists). Yet the English-language name "cypress" was originally applied to a group of trees (Cupressus spp. to botanists) related to junipers, in particular the species in the Mediterreanean region such as the Italian cypress (Cupressus sempervirens). These Mediterranean cypresses are the ones referred to in the Bible. The scientific name for these trees, Cupressus, is straight from the Latin word for them, and is the source of our word cypress.

Thus, from a botanical standpoint the Taxodium "cypresses" in the southeastern U.S. are not true cypresses. They're actually close relatives of the redwood in California. You could think of them as swamp redwoods or bald (deciduous) redwoods. However, the name cypress is deeply entrenched and very traditional for these trees so it's not about to change. BTW, the California redwood (Sequoia sempervirens) also has stringy bark that ought to make good cordage, though it's supposed to be pretty fire-resistant.

Meanwhile, in California and Arizona we have several species of true cypress such as Cupressus arizonica, the Arizona cypress. When I posed the question earlier of whether anyone had tried cypress bark that's what I meant, forgetting that there's another quite different "cypress" out there in another part of the country.

Quiet Bear said:
Yes, scientific names are great, particularly if you travel. Dendrology (tree and plant id) is a hobby of mine. When I used to travel around the southeast and work with other foresters, rangers, etc., it always amazed me how many different common names there were for the same tree or plant. Or how many different species can be called "haw".

I was in a museum in Mexico, looking at an exhibit of plant parts used by Indians, and I didn't recognize the Spanish-language names... but to my joy they had the scientific names as well, so I could know from which plant the various seeds, fibers, etc. came from. Handy!

Bill D.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Best dryer lint is from 100% cotton items. Great stuff.

Cattail down is also good.


I tried dryer lint for the 1st time this weekend. Got it going on the 1st strike. Thanks for the tip
 
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