Tiny little useless lanyard holes...

four_shore,
I've been collecting knives for four decades myself. I carried an Al Mar Eagle Talon for 25 years and never lost it because it was attached to my belt loop with a lanyard. In the days before clips became the norm that was a real good possibility. A friend of mine lost his nice rosewood Eagle while hunting and that wasn't gonna happen to me with what was then (1981) a $115.00 knife. I'm stuck with a pocket clip now because the Piranha Predator I carry doesn't have a hole at all. But the clip dips in just below the top so it grabs the pocket seam and keeps the knife from riding up out of your pocket. I have friends that have lost their knives even with the clip. I guess it depends on how active you are while carrying.
The advise about removing the inner strands and tapering the end is good as I have done the same to get para cord through a smaller hole. And para cord stays knotted better after removing them as well.
 
TAS said:
four_shore,
I've been collecting knives for four decades myself. I carried an Al Mar Eagle Talon for 25 years and never lost it because it was attached to my belt loop with a lanyard. In the days before clips became the norm that was a real good possibility. A friend of mine lost his nice rosewood Eagle while hunting and that wasn't gonna happen to me with what was then (1981) a $115.00 knife. I'm stuck with a pocket clip now because the Piranha Predator I carry doesn't have a hole at all. But the clip dips in just below the top so it grabs the pocket seam and keeps the knife from riding up out of your pocket. I have friends that have lost their knives even with the clip. I guess it depends on how active you are while carrying.
The advise about removing the inner strands and tapering the end is good as I have done the same to get para cord through a smaller hole. And para cord stays knotted better after removing them as well.
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i really appreciate your post brother.

thanks for sharing :)
 
cbxer55 said:
Lanyard holes, in and of themselves, are useless.
I carry BIG knives. Not little knives that need handle extensions.
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Just like at the range, the guy with the biggest gun usually has the smallest .........
 
MC Chan said:
After you post a topic it is no longer yours alone, it belongs to the ages and you will get all kinds of responses. You shouldn't try to determine the course and get offended at the different opinions you may receive.

Personally I don't like large lanyard holes on folders, nor having lanyards on most knives. Exceptions are small Spyderco's because I get terrified if I think I've lost them. For piece of mind I use the suggestions you've already received. Not trolling, just a different opinion.
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Very good points my friend. :thumbup: :cool: :thumbup:

Going back and changing the Original Post after two pages of replies is like "taking the ball and running home".


There is no going back, trying to change the past just doesn't work.


As I have stated all along, the current size of lanyard holes on most production knives is fine as is for ME.


If anything, I would use a lanyard on a fixed blade,

...as there is times when the personal danger is less important then the safety of others,

...like in a camp setting or while completion cutting;

...but is see no need for a lanyard on a folder.


Heck, I even think pocket clips are over-rated. :eek:


Just one knife users opinion.




Big Mike
 
those small lanyard holes are in fact not for a lanyard. they are for machining. they drop the part in and the whole lines up with a post so it can be cut or whatever they are trying to do
 
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Big Mike said:
Very good points my friend. :thumbup: :cool: :thumbup:

Going back and changing the Original Post after two pages of replies is like "taking the ball and running home".Big Mike
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that was uncalled for and there's no reason to be a cheerleader here.

i (sort of) made a mistake in my title and revised it.

don't be ridiculous.

the entire paragraph of this thread topic was exactly how i intended it to be with the exception of opening it up for disagreement (which actually was misinterpreted by ppl such as yourself).

i welcomed disagreements about the size of the lanyard hole and nothing more.

that must be hard to comprehend.

people stating that they wish the holes were so small that they didn't exist is just a subtle and clever way of taking the thread off topic.

i was well aware prior to posting this that some people despise lanyards/holes etc...

we're running in circles at this point.

i'm not sure what your agenda is but you've been after me since i started this thread.

you keep popping up in here, poking at me and then repeating yourself to "stay on topic".

you've made your so called points.

if you have an issue please feel free to pm me otherwise have a nice day.
 
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I don't understand the need for a lanyard hole on a tip down carry knife, let alone why they makes holes too small to put an actually lanyard through. But typically I love a good lanyard
 
FearAgent said:
I don't understand the need for a lanyard hole on a tip down carry knife, let alone why they makes holes too small to put an actually lanyard through. But typically I love a good lanyard
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thanks for your post and for staying on track.
 
FearAgent said:
I don't understand the need for a lanyard hole on a tip down carry knife
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i've thought about this myself.

the only reasonable explanation that i can come up with is the extension of grip.

lanyards are multifunctional so if it's on a tip down knife and you can't utilize the lanyard for easier access to your blade, at least you still have the grip extension or decorative side of it.

just a possibility.
 
Ok, I read it all before I posted, because well, I wanted to see if it was still worth posting :)

For my knives with smaller lanyard holes, I get 325 cord (yes, 325. It's an outer sleeve and 5 inner strands) which has the feel of 550 cord but a smaller diameter. I do often wish that the lanyard holes were sized to match 550 cord, but that's for convenience nothing else. I completely understand when the lanyard hole is scaled to match the size of the knife itself. I wouldn't really want a kiwi trapper with a huge lanyard hole, it would just be awkward to me.

You can get 325 cord at Hobby Lobby, where I get it, in many colors, here's a lanyard I made, cobra stitch, for my Vic Farmer:

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I have gone through a lot of the methods mentioned to get 550 cord through too small holes, and the dental floss (or fishing line) method is my favorite. It just seems easier to pull cord through than try to push it through. If the floss or fishing line method ALMOST works, try thin wire since you can wrap it to give more support to the cord you're drawing through. I've had good luck with it when needed.

C

That's what you get when you find a stranger in the Alps!
 
cpurcell said:
Ok, I read it all before I posted, because well, I wanted to see if it was still worth posting :)

For my knives with smaller lanyard holes, I get 325 cord (yes, 325. It's an outer sleeve and 5 inner strands) which has the feel of 550 cord but a smaller diameter. I do often wish that the lanyard holes were sized to match 550 cord, but that's for convenience nothing else. I completely understand when the lanyard hole is scaled to match the size of the knife itself. I wouldn't really want a kiwi trapper with a huge lanyard hole, it would just be awkward to me.

You can get 325 cord at Hobby Lobby, where I get it, in many colors, here's a lanyard I made, cobra stitch, for my Vic Farmer:

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I have gone through a lot of the methods mentioned to get 550 cord through too small holes, and the dental floss (or fishing line) method is my favorite. It just seems easier to pull cord through than try to push it through. If the floss or fishing line method ALMOST works, try thin wire since you can wrap it to give more support to the cord you're drawing through. I've had good luck with it when needed.

C

That's what you get when you find a stranger in the Alps!
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thanks for the post and information :)

i'll definitely look into some 325.
 
four_shore said:
naturally they're not for everyone but that's strictly a matter of opinion.
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Just like it's your opinion that a lanyard hole needs to be able to fit 550 cord. There's other rope in the world. Try some. You might like them.:D
 
Shotgun said:
Just like it's your opinion that a lanyard hole needs to be able to fit 550 cord. There's other rope in the world. Try some. You might like them.:D
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this thread has definitely pointed me in the direction of some other cordage options.

let's be honest though, using 550 width as the standard (or minimum) size for lanyard holes wouldn't hurt.

that would increase the variety or cords you could use and you wouldn't have to search for thinner lanyards or physically force larger ones through a tiny hole.

any posts in this thread suggesting forceful options to get lanyards through have only further proven that most of us use larger cord than what our current lanyard holes can accommodate.


you can't argue facts...
 
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My simple answer to this is that not all lanyards are made from 550 cord - although I agree that lanyard holes are generally better off larger rather than smaller.
 
Kwon Kwang said:
My simple answer to this is that not all lanyards are made from 550 cord - although I agree that lanyard holes are generally better off larger rather than smaller.
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several people here have inadvertently admitted that their lanyard holes are made too small simply by stating that they have to use special techniques to force the cord through.

you're right though, not everyone uses 550 but i think it's safe to say that many (if not most) do.
 
It depends on the knife.
There are many knives that I wouldn't want any lanyard on.
On a smaller knife I definitely wouldn't want a huge gaping lanyard hole, if I'm not using it.
so keeping it small makes sense. good middle ground.
on a smaller knife many would be using cord smaller than 550 anyways.
On a bigger knife though, a bigger hole to accommodate a bigger cordage would be fine.
 
four_shore said:
several people here have inadvertently admitted that their lanyard holes are made too small simply by stating that they have to use special techniques to force the cord through.

you're right though, not everyone uses 550 but i think it's safe to say that many (if not most) do.
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I use the awl on my SwissChamp to push the loop through the hole, then the pliers to pull, and then I tie a cow hitch.

Once again, I do emphasize that I wish the lanyard holes were simply made larger. It's a small problem that I've only had with one knife.
 
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