Titanium sux

Mecha said:
Sounds like you need an escape boat!
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If it was just me, I would go somewhere in South America. But my mother broke her hip so I'm standing my ground and dealing with it. I'll find a way. Always do. As with titanium. Found a way. This is the way. :)
 
JoeBusic said:
If it was just me, I would go somewhere in South America. But my mother broke her hip so I'm standing my ground and dealing with it. I'll find a way. Always do. As with titanium. Found a way. This is the way. :)
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Where there's a will, as they say.
 
Aren't those Leeb type testers inaccurate for testing knife hardness? You need a Rockwell C tester that indents with a diamond indenter to get a proper reading.
 
Mobius1 said:
Aren't those Leeb type testers inaccurate for testing knife hardness? You need a Rockwell C tester that indents with a diamond indenter to get a proper reading.
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Tested mine against a full size HRC tester and it's inside +/- 0.5 HRC. Good for me.
 
I guess the real question to be asked, is how does one of those Ti knives actually perform?

I just can't see it being nearly as good as steel. Perhaps in some super specialized application....
 
Mobius1 said:
I guess the real question to be asked, is how does one of those Ti knives actually perform?

I just can't see it being nearly as good as steel. Perhaps in some super specialized application....
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Only one way to find out. Hammering thru nails is on par with steel. Edge retention will be tested with rope cutting against O2, D6 and M398. Without carbides I believe it will be like O2. Will post results.
 
I definitely think it's super cool, don't get me wrong. You'll just have to forgive my skepticism, as that's markedly higher hardness than I have ever heard Ti being able to attain outside of stuff like nitriding.

Also, even amongst steels, nail cutting is a rather diverse affair! But with something like that, I'd take a 63-65 HRC steel over a tough 59-61 blade for nail cutting any day!

The way I look at it, is toughness is super important for knives, until it's not. Kind of like adding RAM to a computer - It helps a ton up to a point, but eventually adding more does pretty much nothing for you (assuming you're not subjecting it to extreme abuse, like prying.). If you're not deforming your edge enough for toughness to be needed, it's kind of going to waste (If a more knowledgeable person wants to correct me on this, please do!). That's why I am a huge fan of steels like Cruwear, Magnacut, high hardness 3v, etc., because they retain enough toughness to not be chippy, but have loads of hardness to resist deformation. It's like the perfect sweet spot for real world knife performance! And they have enough hardness and carbides to be pretty great at abrasion resistance too.

As for Ti, I just have to be a doubting Thomas on this one until proven otherwise.
 
Mobius1 said:
I definitely think it's super cool, don't get me wrong. You'll just have to forgive my skepticism, as that's markedly higher hardness than I have ever heard Ti being able to attain outside of stuff like nitriding.

Also, even amongst steels, nail cutting is a rather diverse affair! But with something like that, I'd take a 63-65 HRC steel over a tough 59-61 blade for nail cutting any day!
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Good points. But titanium is cool! :D

Mobius1 said:
The way I look at it, is toughness is super important for knives, until it's not. Kind of like adding RAM to a computer - It helps a ton up to a point, but eventually adding more does pretty much nothing for you (assuming you're not subjecting it to extreme abuse, like prying.). If you're not deforming your edge enough for toughness to be needed, it's kind of going to waste (If a more knowledgeable person wants to correct me on this, please do!). That's why I am a huge fan of steels like Cruwear, Magnacut, high hardness 3v, etc., because they retain enough toughness to not be chippy, but have loads of hardness to resist deformation. It's like the perfect sweet spot for real world knife performance! And they have enough hardness and carbides to be pretty great at abrasion resistance too.
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For cutting, carbides rulz. No question about it.

Mobius1 said:
As for Ti, I just have to be a doubting Thomas on this one until proven otherwise.
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On it. :)
 
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