TJ Schwarz Perpetua

Evany said:
I just got in on the drop in a moment of weakness. I don't have a compact, sturdy folder at the moment--my other Axis knives are relatively lightweight (940 and 535). As a lefty, I like the Axis lock a lot--not all that many left hand friendly options out there and the price seems very reasonable. I'd love to here what some of the steel experts around here have to say about Nitro-V.
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@Huntsman Knife Co.
I believe you have quite a bit of experience with Nitro-V, care to weigh in?

For informational purposes, the Nitro-V in this knife is ran to 57-59 hrc, though I do not know who is doing the heat treat.
 
I like the materials used, the axis lock, and the price. That said, the knife does not appeal to me. Not sure if it's the blade shape, the grind, or maybe both. I do wish them well as hopefully down the road they'll bring out something I do like.
 
Halfneck said:
I like the materials used, the axis lock, and the price. That said, the knife does not appeal to me. Not sure if it's the blade shape, the grind, or maybe both. I do wish them well as hopefully down the road they'll bring out something I do like.
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Why would you not like the grind? Are you against knives being thin behind the edge and cutting well? o_O
 
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unwisefool said:
It's a USA made knife with the popular "axis lock" in a good steel with a useful blade shape and g10 scales at a reasonable price. Seems pretty clear to me
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Let me rephrase my original statement: this knife doesn't appeal to me.
 
`br4dz- said:
Why would you not like the grind? Are you against knives being thin behind the edge and cutting well? o_O
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I think a full flat would not taper as severely after the shoulders, resulting in a knife that slices better (beyond the first 1/2" deep), when compared to a saber ground blade.

Could this be what was meant as a better slicer? It isn't just about the thickness behind the edge. The blade profile as a whole also comes into play, depending on what is to be cut...
 
NJBillK said:
I think a full flat would not taper as severely after the shoulders, resulting in a knife that slices better (beyond the first 1/2" deep), when compared to a saber ground blade.

Could this be what was meant as a better slicer? It isn't just about the thickness behind the edge. The blade profile as a whole also comes into play, depending on what is to be cut...
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It's hollow ground, not a saber.
 
`br4dz- said:
It's hollow ground, not a saber.
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A saber hollow, not a full height hollow grind... which will have a higher propensity to bind when the flats are contacted, vs a full flat grind which doesn't have that issue/feature.
 
I spoke with Shane from Millit about the 57-59HRC on Instagram. This was our conversation:

  • jasonthames Quick question Shane? What made you guys decide to run your Nitro-V at 57-59? I have used it at around 62 and it was great. Just curious, nice looking EDC! Thanks!
  • millitknives@jasonthames Most thinner, EDC folding knives are placed around 57-59Rc. When the heat treat is to hard, it allows the edge to fracture or chip easily. With the lower heat treat, and the right temper, it will allow the edge to maintain longer with properties of NitroV.
  • jasonthames@millitknives So your treating it for toughness and edge stability. Not all-out edge retention. Got it!
  • millitknives@jasonthames Its super hard to make a steel be the best at everything, so we approached it with the mindset that it can and will be easily maintenced by the end user. 60-62rc is not easy for people to service at home. With the strength of NitroV, we can run it at a lower hardness, and still have a strong, serviceable edge
  • jasonthames@millitknives Seems like the right decision. For and EDC its better to be tough and stable than too hard and chippy. Sure will be nice to have an EDC with your awesome hollow grind!
I agree that there is no such thing as a perfect heat treat. You always trade one thing for another, and for an EDC knife that will sell to the masses, toughness and edge stability is more important than ultimate edge retention. I agree that getting one at 62HRC would be awesome, but how many people that are not part of this community bought the old HK Axis? I would venture to say a bunch. I think maybe the agressive hollow-grind with a harder temper would chip for this folks given how they use (read: abuse) their knives. JMHO.
 
I'm pretty interested in this one. It's got a nice, utilitarian design that looks like it will get some work done. I have ZERO experience with Nitro V so that's a plus, and the fact that it's US made is right up my alley.

People have been talking smack about the lock but the fact of the matter is the patent is up. Tough cookies!

I wonder if people made a big deal about the first framelocks that weren't Chris Reeve produced?
 
Only thing I would like changed on this knife is the blade steel hardness. If they bumped it up to like 59-61 it would hit a nice middle ground between ease of sharpening and edge retention, but I'm pretty sure that even at 62 it would still be easier to sharpen than D2 at 60 (what the HK Axis locks were at the low end). If the hardness was higher, it would be an absolute homerun.
 
As a lefty, this one interests me. An original design, USA-made, non-Benchmade Axis that hasn't been stolen by Ganzo, so it's legal and ethical! And, it costs the same as a partial-liner, plastic-handled Griptilian or 535 Bugout...

I'm not sure I'm a fan of the edge sweep, though. It might be easy to sharpen on a belt, but will it pose a bit of an issue on guided systems like the Edge Pro, Lansky, and Wicked Edge?
 
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loonybin said:
I'm not sure I'm a fan of the edge sweep, though. It might be easy to sharpen on a belt, but it will it pose a bit of an issue on guided systems like the Edge Pro, Lansky, and Wicked Edge?
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I'm not so keen on the up swept edge, but it's no prob to sharpen with the WE.
 
Cursum Perficio said:
I'm not so keen on the up swept edge, but it's no prob to sharpen with the WE.
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Hopefully the Edge Pro won't have an issue, since that is what I own. It looks like the thumbstud will have to be removed to sharpen the heel of the blade, though. That's no fun.
 
I have a feeling there will be some in the exchange after people start to get them.
 
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