TLC, tips and tricks for old knives

Hickory n steel

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I thought it would be great to have a thread dedicated to sharing discussing and learning various tips tricks and techniques for giving an old knife the basic TLC it needs to get back into a pocket or onto a belt.

I know we have the maintenance tinkering and embellishment forum, but having a thread here specific vintage to traditionals seems like a good idea.
 
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I'm going to start this off with a question.

For a stacked handle, is there a good way to brighten up yellowed white spacers on an otherwise nice handle you don't want to really disturb ?

I've got a western 628 that could use a little something and I just won a nice west-cut K3 in stacked leather that's overall very nice otherwise, both have ( or appear to have in the pics ) yellowed spacers that could use some freshening up.
 
I don't think it'd be possible to brighten yellowed white spacers if it's yellow due to oxidation. Dirty leather hendles I've cleaned with saddle soap and a brush. Done the same with a sheath. Waxed them after with sno-seal and buffed to a shine. I've used a small amount of honing oil on some leather handle because it's readily available while sharpening.
 
If I see bone or stag that looks really dry, I apply some mineral oil and let it sit for awhile. Keep in mind that this may darken the material a bit.
 
Great idea for a thread, as stated there is the tinkering and embellishment forum, but one dedicated solely to Vintage Traditionals is a good idea, i like your thinking Hickory n steel Hickory n steel . :thumbsup:
 
I always use first wd40 and fine steel wool, but if theres a tough rust spot and I intend to use the knife I will use one of the soft little steel or brass wire wheels for my dremel.
It will do a good job but won't mess things up like a real wire wheel can.
 
Try one of those emery boards that chicks use on the finger nails..

That would work well.
These work much better, i have been using them for about 12 months after discovering them online. They are the same as emery boards but on about a 3/4 inch piece of square foam. The advantage over emery boards is that you have a bigger working surface, so they last longer, but also because they are on foam they have more give. And can be used to polish the edge of a blade and remove small burrs, sand back and clean up and polish wood scales. Very handy to have in your knife maintenance tool kit. :thumbsup:

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I think careful ( using Fine sandpaper 400g ) on oxidized Leather spacers would work - it would not take much at all, and care to be taken not to reshape from the original.

So talking about Old Knives and bringing them back to life! Short periods of Mineral Oil soaking does not hurt Bone - I have read otherwise, but I have not experienced this - longer term- yes I could see why.

The older Knives just DO NOT LOOK GOOD shiny, Charlie said something one day that absolutely stuck with me, to this day I believe hugely in this - if you Shine a old Knife up- you take away all it's History - you rob the Knife of the Original finish that then slowly turned into its Life's Patina, not only does Patina protect Metals from rust but Patina is the Knife's Historic "Whole being".

So how do you get a seized rusty old knife going again?

Mineral oil, a container for the Knife to sit in- Plastic, The Knife doesn't need a Bath immersed, all it needs is placing the Knife into the container, then Mineral oil poured liberally into the liners - tip the Knife back and forward so it gets end to end.
Open the Blades back and forward quite a few times to work the oil in- and make sure you tip Knife so that the Oil that's in the Liners get right into the Joints. Plenty of Mineral oil on the Blades.
Leave the Knife in it's container in a drawer somewhere for a few days.

After a few days of Mineral Oil penetration:
This part will freak you out! but I have done this a Bunch and NEVER scratched the Blades - get an old fashioned Butter knife- obviously non serrated, The Butter knife should have a flat clean edge - use this on a 20 to 30 degree angle and basically scrape - work the Blades - you will see the Red Rust come off very quickly - be silly and concentrate on a small spot with obtrusive sanding techniques and expect to mark the Blade horribly, use common sense and good hard even strokes will work an old Rusty Blade like you wont believe- wont take much Elbow Grease either.
I have used Blunt Old Knife blades for this part of the Process as well with great effect.

You will see that the Rusty Knife's Blades will come up at least 50% to 60% better this method alone, other people say use a softer metal such as Copper - but as I said I have never had a problem with the above. Obviously Pits will still be there.

DO NOT USE sandpaper OR Steel Wool above the grade of 0000 grade, 0000 grade Steel Wool - with Mineral oil is THE WAY TO GO and will do the next and last stage and get the remainder off after the scraping process.
The good thing about 0000 Grade Steel Wool is that it will NOT shine up the metal, the Patina stays- but you work whatever residue of live Rust Spores away.
even the next step up 000 Steel Wool will Shine the Steel, dont settle for anything less than 0000 Grade.
After this is the simple Joint flushing method of Mineral Oil - working the Blades back and forward many, many times., Use Clean Mineral oil on to flush out and you will be surprised just how effective you can re-introduce the Walk and Talk back into your Gummed Up tight, tired Joints, it's extremely satisfying the get your Knife to have snap again.
You can use WD40 and work the Blades- and use Compressed Air to blow out the Gunk out of the Joints- this actually works in well with the above process.

There are many different ways, this way after trying so many different techniques is what I would always Highly recommend.
 
The older Knives just DO NOT LOOK GOOD shiny, Charlie said something one day that absolutely stuck with me, to this day I believe hugely in this - if you Shine a old Knife up- you take away all it's History - you rob the Knife of the Original finish that then slowly turned into its Life's Patina, not only does Patina protect Metals from rust but Patina is the Knife's Historic "Whole being"
The way I see it things are only new once, and they don't need to look " knew " to be of use or worthwhile.
You see it all the time with old tools and knives on YouTube, every old tool has to be polished up because somehow it's not useful until it's shiny.


And I do not buy the copout of " it's theirs to do with as they please ", that's true but I'm also free to care that they did it and posted it online for all to see.
 
These should have originally been white right?

Overall the handle is very nice and I just don't wanna mess it up.

I will give it a healthy dose of neatsfoot oil, but that probably won't fix the play In the pommel from leather shrinkage.

In that instance I will just get a wrap or two of thread in there to fill the gap, the leather should at least swell enough that you'd never know.
 
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Since I pic up some really "yacky-gucky-rusty" old folders on fleemarkets I have tried some different approaches.
1. toothbrush and washing-up-liquid
2.WD-40 / petrol
3. ultrasonic cleaner in cold water if the scales are wood or horn otherwise hot water. Compressed air for blowing out moist.
4. Hot Oxalic acid* on rusty blades followed by 600grit wet sanding with window polish. *Also good on wood that`s been stained by steel
5. Olive oil on MOP, Danish oil on wood/bone/horn. Some times I have used household bleach before oiling wood or bone
 
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