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I think you're right!
I watched Aliens for the first time in about 10 years (watched it many times before) and while it is still great, it looks surprisingly dated in places. You see the Alien for too long and that expopes its unnatural and awkward movements.
I reckon there are a couple of reasons for this:
I think that audiences expect a much higer standard of figthing nowadays and that the kind of moves, commitment and safety measures make continuity difficult. I also think that quick cuts create a more rapid pace, as you mentioned, another trick to acheiving this is slowoing down the frame rate to create jerkiness, like i the fight scenes in Gladiator. Those who know what they're looking at will be much more impressed by the duel in The Princess Bride than the girl fight in The Mummy, but the general public just want to be thrilled, and speed and confusion are a big part of that.
I also think that they are happier to teach an actor to fight/dance than the other way round these days. With the kind of wire and camera tricks that we've come to accept since the Matrix. A big 'name' virtually guarantees box office success whereas a great fighter (or stage fighter) is a big gamble - just look at what happened to Jackie Chan the first couple of times he tried to break into the western market - he flopped even though he was one of the biggest stars in the world already! And Steven Seagull knows his stuff, yet his films are really dull. Even Jet Li is resorting to close shots, quick cuts and stunt doubles these days, and yet they can give us Cameron Diaz and Demi Moore doing flying, spinning, upsidedown, back screw kicks on demand, or Uma swinging a sword like a Hamilton Beach blender. Ha!
Having said that, I was very impressed with The Last Samurai (although it had one blatantly stupid bit) but I'll have to watch it again to see what I think about the swordplay.
I watched Aliens for the first time in about 10 years (watched it many times before) and while it is still great, it looks surprisingly dated in places. You see the Alien for too long and that expopes its unnatural and awkward movements.
I reckon there are a couple of reasons for this:
I think that audiences expect a much higer standard of figthing nowadays and that the kind of moves, commitment and safety measures make continuity difficult. I also think that quick cuts create a more rapid pace, as you mentioned, another trick to acheiving this is slowoing down the frame rate to create jerkiness, like i the fight scenes in Gladiator. Those who know what they're looking at will be much more impressed by the duel in The Princess Bride than the girl fight in The Mummy, but the general public just want to be thrilled, and speed and confusion are a big part of that.
I also think that they are happier to teach an actor to fight/dance than the other way round these days. With the kind of wire and camera tricks that we've come to accept since the Matrix. A big 'name' virtually guarantees box office success whereas a great fighter (or stage fighter) is a big gamble - just look at what happened to Jackie Chan the first couple of times he tried to break into the western market - he flopped even though he was one of the biggest stars in the world already! And Steven Seagull knows his stuff, yet his films are really dull. Even Jet Li is resorting to close shots, quick cuts and stunt doubles these days, and yet they can give us Cameron Diaz and Demi Moore doing flying, spinning, upsidedown, back screw kicks on demand, or Uma swinging a sword like a Hamilton Beach blender. Ha!
Having said that, I was very impressed with The Last Samurai (although it had one blatantly stupid bit) but I'll have to watch it again to see what I think about the swordplay.