Too many Hinderer designs

Not at all, that's like saying you have too much money, a car too fast, being too lucky, a girl too pretty.
 
Lots of designs/variations is great marketing right now, consumers eat it up. Look at how well limited editions, sprints etc. sell and the ridiculous prices they bring on the secondary market. Right or wrong you can't argue with the sales results.

It worked for Kimber, and then when the VP went to Sig they are now doing the same very successfully, Ford as well with the pickup trucks. Offer lots of variations on a similar theme and everyone finds something they like. It also allows for status symbols (IE similar versions with significant price differences) with minimal retooling.
 
PURPLEDC said:
CR? I am assuming you mean Chris Reeve? I would not put them in the same category at all. Sure he prefers the lock design of his own creation but he isnt afraid to do new things. The sebenza is the sebenza. You really cant change too much on that knife before its no longer a sebbie. But things like the umnumzaan and Ti-lock both stray far from the sebenza path. IMHO the only thing that changes on a hinderer is the outline.
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The zaan was just a hotrod seb (IMO) he did add the thing that looks like a lockbar stabilizer ....don't be a RH hater, Rick and Jim have done a outstanding job with their collaborations and I hope they continue to flood the market with them....there can never be enough, it's like 31 flavors. 😉
 
bigmark408 said:
The zaan was just a hotrod seb (IMO) he did add the thing that looks like a lockbar stabilizer ....don't be a RH hater, Rick and Jim have done a outstanding job with their collaborations and I hope they continue to flood the market with them....there can never be enough, it's like 31 flavors. 😉
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Agree to disagree. Again I didnt say there were too many hinderer designs. I just dont care for most of the ones that are available. I personally dont feel the umnumzaan as a hotrod seb. They are both ti frame locks but that doesnt make it any more of a sebenza than a hinderer itself.
 
I don't see how they are all the same...

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Ajack60 said:
Glad to know I'm not the only one that knows the song. Wish I knew how to post videos :)
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It's an option on the little thing above the place where you write a post.

Something tells me it's gonna take a code breaker to figure out what I just said. :D

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clearkevin said:
Okay I want to know if it's just me and everyone else loves it or if others feel the same way. I love the xm 18 and 24 and the zt 0560. That said I think there are way to many Hinderer designs the thistle the cryo the ember, then the 0566, 550, what's worse is that they are all the same. I sort of feel this way about Ken Onion but at least his designs are slightly different consider the 0200 and the CRKT forsight (similar but different).
Am I alone here or what?
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The Ken Onion designs had lots of recurve and AO but a lot of the designs looked different from each other. Hinderer has one design and everything is a variation on that theme. Seems like all he does is pick a new blade shape from the list of traditional blade shapes and put that in the xm handle. He sells a lot of knives so it obviously works. His collaborations aren't much different. The 550 looks like the cryo. The 560 and 562 are a similar shape. Seems like he uses 3 different shapes and plays off of them with small changes.
 
I wouldn't know where to begin in addressing the Op thread topic but it was really more a statement than a query so statements can simply - stand.
I would offer this, whether it is a knife, a widget or a diaper.
IF a product coming to market is well conceived, well designed, meticulously executed to stringent quality standards using the best materials and craftsmanship the price point can bear and that product is backed by stellar service and meets the need of the Amazingly astute free-market "consuming-consumer"....
Success is what follows and often an icon is born.

Whether you recall an Omega watch, Rayban Wayfarer sunglasses, Merrell Chameleon stretch ll's, or the Hinderer XM....... there is never Too much of a good thing IMO.
Varients meet the slightly varying needs of the previously mentioned consumer whether it be size, deployment method or affordabilty.
As for the "possible" stress that often accompanies multiple choices (read: too may) well, that is self-induced.
We "Live" in a World of many choices, too much speed, and not enough time.
Adapt and Overcome.
Personally, I like having choices. I'd have a hard time making an argument for having - less.
So, short answer (if there was a question) - No.
 
And Hinderer does more than just add different blade shapes to the XMs as evidenced by his early work and more recent offerings at knife shows that include the Eklipse, liner-locks and a dagger.
 
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