Top Ten Observations To Date

[CheetahSpeed]

Preface: The following are my observations, judgements, opinions and/or thoughts. I do not deem them to be 100% accurate, correct or the absolute truth. I intend in no way to offend anyone and simply make these observations public for what I hope to be the betterment of this forum through a productive/constructive dialogue in good spirit.

I became somewhat interested or intrigued by the Busse Combat knives a few months ago through a friend. I have been watching the Busse forum, other knife forums, and the Exchange forum here on BF since that time. In this short and limited time, I have yet to be convinced to make the step toward that first purchase of a Busse Combat knife.

Here are what I shall call the Top Ten Observations (to steal from Letterman) and some of the rationale on my part for not taking that step as of yet.

10. There appears to be a substanital amount of hype about knives coming to the Busse Company Store and only the privileged few are able to actually get a knife after hours of what they call fun doing the F5 thing.

9. There appears to be a number of individuals that seek attention or use what I shall call the show off mentality of trying to better another members Busse knife collection or a certain Busse Combat knife.

8. There appears to be a certain amount of secrecy or unrevealed information to the public about Busse Combat knife production and actual quanities of their so called Busse Variants.

7. There appears to be a number of what I shall call stories made up about reasons for selling a Busse or reasons for a person's interest in Busse Combat knives or reasons an individual's knife is better than anyone elses, etc.

6. There appears to be a number of so called Busse Combat knife fans that buy from Busse Company Store only to turn around and sell them.

5. There appears to be what I shall call the good ole' boy system in amongst the old time Busse Hogs.

4. There appears to be a number of old time collectors that are not regularly participating members on the forum.

3. There appears to be a substantial amount of what I shall call the "buddy" system amongst certain individuals in the effort to assist each other with sales of Busse Combat knives.

2. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse Combat knives for the sole purpose of making a buck and not as an enthusiast of Busse Combat knives.

1. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse for the mere benefit of themselves and not as collectors. This is what I shall call the "What's In It For Me" of "It's All About Me" mentality.

Thanks for reading to all those that chose to do so, made the effort, and took the time!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

 

[barrabas74]

Why dont you buy one and figure out what its all about ? I wouldnt buy them if I didnt like them. Yes I have sold some that either didnt fit me or if I needed some money but most of them I have kept or traded for ones that fit me. If they didnt do what we have shown they do...who would buy them? Is there Hype? Of course but thats with any group of people who stand by the product they like. Want hype? look at Cold Steel, but we wont go down that road again.

There is a buddy system so to speak, look at the guys here, we dont argue much, we have a good time and drink Scotch. MY GOD WERE HAVING FUN! Its just a good environment to be around and I cant afford all the knives most of these other guys can, but does anyone look down on those who dont own? Nope never flet it. Do some buy and resell? Yes of course, but thats thier perogative. Many people buy and turn around Spyderco's, Benchmade's, etc. If people want to pay more than retail for a knife, let them, they must want it bad enough.

Your observations are your own and you may change them, no big deal. I say buy one, try it out. If you dont like it, post why and what you think should change. Thats how change happens. Besides you already know you could always sell it

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

Perhaps the "you tube" test vids will give you more raw data, not opinions, to help you make up your mind. I had to actually purchase my first Busse and use it to actually make up my mind about them. Now I am convinced of their high quality.

 

[Jaxx]

Preface: The following are my observations, judgements, opinions and/or thoughts. I do not deem them to be 100% accurate, correct or the absolute truth. I intend in no way to offend anyone and simply make these observations public for what I hope to be the betterment of this forum through a productive dialogue in good spirit.

I became somewhat interested or intrigued by the Busse Combat knives a few months ago through a friend. I have been watching the Busse forum, other knife forums, and the Exchange forum here on BF since that time. In this short and limited time, I have yet to be convinced to make the step toward that first purchase of a Busse Combat knife.

Here are what I shall call the Top Ten Observations (to steal from Letterman) and some of the rationale on my part for not taking that step as of yet.

10. There appears to be a substanital amount of hype about knives coming to the Busse Company Store and only the privileged few are able to actually get a knife after hours of what they call fun doing the F5 thing.

9. There appears to be a number of individuals that seek attention or use what I shall call the show off mentality of trying to better another members Busse knife collection or a certain Busse Combat knife.

8. There appears to be a certain amount of secrecy or unrevealed information to the public about Busse Combat knife production and actual quanities of their so called Busse Variants.

7. There appears to be a number of what I shall call stories made up about reasons for selling a Busse or reasons for a person's interest in Busse Combat knives or reasons an individual's knife is better than anyone elses, etc.

6. There appears to be a number of so called Busse Combat knife fans that buy from Busse Company Store only to turn around and sell them.

5. There appears to be what I shall call the good ole' boy system in amongst the old time Busse Hogs.

4. There appears to be a number of old time collectors that are not regularly participating members on the forum.

3. There appears to be a substantial amount of what I shall call the "buddy" system amongst certain individuals in the effort to assist each other with sales of Busse Combat knives.

2. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse Combat knives for the sole purpose of making a buck and not as an enthusiast of Busse Combat knives.

1. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse for the mere benefit of themselves and not as collectors. This is what I shall call the "What's In It For Me" of "It's All About Me" mentality.

Thanks for reading to all those that chose to do so, made the effort, and took the time!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Although I am tempted just to say, "More for us!!!", instead I'll just say that whatever your observations have led you to believe, you should try the KNIFE. Don't let us "good old boy buddy HOG's" discourage you from getting what might be just what you've been looking for in a knife for whatever purpose that you want the knife for. You'll not know unless you try one. I'm new here. I'm not an old school anything, 'cept for maybe age. I like these knives. I use some & collect others, in addition to various customs. I know this... If you DON'T like the knife, you should have NO problems selling it, even used. These are great knives. :thumbup: Jusy my $0.02, YMMV. Seriously, try a Busse before bashing us, cool?
Happy Hunting!
Jaxx

 

[Justabuyer]

Man I am really sorry I was the latest one to start this crap. I have learned and will not do it again.

 

[winmagfrog]

There appears to be someone posting here who has never owned a Busse. I'm sure others who are more eloquent will come along after me. I'm not sure what your intent was by posting your observations, if you just needed to share your opinions on something, consider it done. There's been so much bickering here lately that it's getting really old. There is no secret to scoring a knife. You just have to be persistant, every knife I've really wanted, I've gotten. I'm willing to put some time into the chase and for me, when I have time, it makes it all the more fun. It's not for everybody, no big deal.

If you are near the VA Beach area, pm or email me. I'll let you borrow a Busse, beat the snot out of it and give it back to me. Then your opinions will be a little more interesting.

Please note, I'm not trying to be gruff with you. Just making an offer that will say more than anything I could type.

Welcome to the forums, stick around and get to know some of the personalities. Most of the attitude/ mentality you speak of is all in good fun.

 

[Progunner]

Preface: The following are my observations, judgements, opinions and/or thoughts. I do not deem them to be 100% accurate, correct or the absolute truth. I intend in no way to offend anyone and simply make these observations public for what I hope to be the betterment of this forum through a productive dialogue in good spirit.

I became somewhat interested or intrigued by the Busse Combat knives a few months ago through a friend. I have been watching the Busse forum, other knife forums, and the Exchange forum here on BF since that time. In this short and limited time, I have yet to be convinced to make the step toward that first purchase of a Busse Combat knife.

Here are what I shall call the Top Ten Observations (to steal from Letterman) and some of the rationale on my part for not taking that step as of yet.

10. There appears to be a substanital amount of hype about knives coming to the Busse Company Store and only the privileged few are able to actually get a knife after hours of what they call fun doing the F5 thing.

If you think that is bad you should try the nerve racking event we call extravaganza!

9. There appears to be a number of individuals that seek attention or use what I shall call the show off mentality of trying to better another members Busse knife collection or a certain Busse Combat knife.

I think it is more of a mutual admiration of each others trough full of INFI, in my experience the ones who feel they are being up staged are looking at it the wrong way and don't get it

8. There appears to be a certain amount of secrecy or unrevealed information to the public about Busse Combat knife production and actual quanities of their so called Busse Variants.

Actually many of the variants can be searched out in the forum if you know what to look for and there are a great many at badmojo. There are some blades that can not be shown or spoken of, but that is by agreement with Jerry. If you make a deal with the big man you had better keep it.

7. There appears to be a number of what I shall call stories made up about reasons for selling a Busse or reasons for a person's interest in Busse Combat knives or reasons an individual's knife is better than anyone elses, etc.

Every one has a story, some are true and some aren't.

6. There appears to be a number of so called Busse Combat knife fans that buy from Busse Company Store only to turn around and sell them.

This has become a problem within the last 6 months or so, some(not all) of the newbies have taken to this sort of thing. I don't advocate buying from someone you suspect of doing this.

5. There appears to be what I shall call the good ole' boy system in amongst the old time Busse Hogs.

In many family dynamics the older kids always stick together a little more than than they tend to with the new kids on the block. That doesn't mean that everyone new will always be excluded. But you can't make someone accept you.

4. There appears to be a number of old time collectors that are not regularly participating members on the forum.

Ah yes, the black holes of Bussedom. They are a mystery.

3. There appears to be a substantial amount of what I shall call the "buddy" system amongst certain individuals in the effort to assist each other with sales of Busse Combat knives.

Sounds like a reference to the recent bumping of sale threads. I would not suggest that can of worms get opened again lest we have another mess on our hands. We all like to help our frineds, it is human nature and I'll leave it at that, neither condoning or condeming it.

2. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse Combat knives for the sole purpose of making a buck and not as an enthusiast of Busse Combat knives.

This will happen with something that gains such popularity. Heck Look at some of these dummies who went nuts when Beanie Babies came out, only difference is, if the SHTF we can use our collectibles.

1. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse for the mere benefit of themselves and not as collectors. This is what I shall call the "What's In It For Me" of "It's All About Me" mentality.

Sounds like a redundancy of #'s 2 & 6

Thanks for reading to all those that chose to do so, made the effort, and took the time!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

That being said, I have seen more kindness and comraderie in this forum than any other place in my life, except maybe for my parish. If the above observations are all you have taken away from here then you have unfortunately missed those experiences I speak about, but don't lose heart. They will manifest themselves again. Take the recent sale of the Fire Wardens, many here got extras to pass on to those who missed out on them and they are selling them to the guys for the same cost they got them from the store for. That is looking out for folks in my book. You might say it isn't but if one of these guys snagged one for you, you'd be darn thankful. I have seen guys give knives away and loan them out for someoen to try if they were on the fence. I have personally experienced one marine lamenting the sale of his custom variant get his knife back out of the extreme kindness and generosity of another forum member who remains anonymous by his own request. In short, don't judge us too harshly yet. Hang around long enough and I think you will be greatly surprised.

 

[Progunner]

If you are near the VA Beach area, pm or email me. I'll let you borrow a Busse, beat the snot out of it and give it back to me.

Well what do you know, there is one of those manifestations I was just mentioning. Good on you winmagfrog!

 

[Jaxx]

Progunner

Here, here! Well 'spoken'. :thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Tony G]

Porkgunner,

I'm glad I waited and saw your post first. Saved me a ton of time and I couldn't have said it as well and I would have missed a lot.

Tony G

That being said, I have seen more kindness and comraderie in this forum than any other place in my life, except maybe for my parish. If the above observations are all you have taken away from here then you have unfortunately missed those experiences I speak about, but don't lose heart. They will manifest themselves again. Take the recent sale of the Fire Wardens, many here got extras to pass on to those who missed out on them and they are selling them to the guys for the same cost they got them from the store for. That is looking out for folks in my book. You might say it isn't but if one of these guys snagged one for you, you'd be darn thankful. I have seen guys give knives away and loan them out for someoen to try if they were on the fence. I have personally experienced one marine lamenting the sale of his custom variant get his knife back out of the extreme kindness and generosity of another forum member who remains anonymous by his own request. In short, don't judge us too harshly yet. Hang around long enough and I think you will be greatly surprised.

 

[Gravelface]

Preface: The following are my observations, judgements, opinions and/or thoughts. I do not deem them to be 100% accurate, correct or the absolute truth. I intend in no way to offend anyone and simply make these observations public for what I hope to be the betterment of this forum through a productive/constructive dialogue in good spirit.

I became somewhat interested or intrigued by the Busse Combat knives a few months ago through a friend. I have been watching the Busse forum, other knife forums, and the Exchange forum here on BF since that time. In this short and limited time, I have yet to be convinced to make the step toward that first purchase of a Busse Combat knife. And you never will if you don't but one!

Here are what I shall call the Top Ten Observations (to steal from Letterman) and some of the rationale on my part for not taking that step as of yet.

10. There appears to be a substanital amount of hype about knives coming to the Busse Company Store and only the privileged few are able to actually get a knife after hours of what they call fun doing the F5 thing. It is not a privilege...it is dilligence

9. There appears to be a number of individuals that seek attention or use what I shall call the show off mentality of trying to better another members Busse knife collection or a certain Busse Combat knife. Yes, some folks (certainly me) like to show what their long hours of hunting have gotten them.....you nver took a picture of that large fish you caught?

8. There appears to be a certain amount of secrecy or unrevealed information to the public about Busse Combat knife production and actual quanities of their so called Busse Variants. It is Busse's business as to production numbers...what does it matter? You have one or you don't.

7. There appears to be a number of what I shall call stories made up about reasons for selling a Busse or reasons for a person's interest in Busse Combat knives or reasons an individual's knife is better than anyone elses, etc. We don't have a chance to hold it before we buy it....so if it doesn't fit, then it goes to the trough. Sometimes you have to sell one to get one....not everyone here is a millionaire.

6. There appears to be a number of so called Busse Combat knife fans that buy from Busse Company Store only to turn around and sell them. A persons business is their own...noone is forced to buy one from anyone.

5. There appears to be what I shall call the good ole' boy system in amongst the old time Busse Hogs. Some of these blades are very difficult to find and yes, we look out for folks who share the same interest as us...don't you?

4. There appears to be a number of old time collectors that are not regularly participating members on the forum. Why should they...they already have the best blades...in my opinion.....some folks may lose interest or just don't feel they need to blabber all night

3. There appears to be a substantial amount of what I shall call the "buddy" system amongst certain individuals in the effort to assist each other with sales of Busse Combat knives. See #5

2. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse Combat knives for the sole purpose of making a buck and not as an enthusiast of Busse Combat knives. Everyone gets drawn into it one way or another, unless you are an official seller for Busse, you really aren't going to make rent doing this

1. There appears to be a number of individuals into Busse for the mere benefit of themselves and not as collectors. This is what I shall call the "What's In It For Me" of "It's All About Me" mentality. I am not sure what you mean with this one.....I am buying the knife...it is about what I like. These are HARD use knives...some folks collect them, some folks buy them to use them....please explain further.

Thanks for reading to all those that chose to do so, made the effort, and took the time!! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Buy one and see what it is all about.

 

[Progunner]

Hey CheetahSpeed, why don't you post a Wanted To Buy thread and see what happens, you might get what you want and find a guy who will surprise you with a price that isn't at a 50% mark up. Just a thought, if you have your eye on one model but can't seem to snag it, you may as well go fishing for it. I would send you an email or PM asking you what you are looking for, but you don't have either option available to any of us.

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

CS: You might notice that sometimes people buy a Busse knife only to turn around and sell it. And I don't mean for profit but to just break even. I for one have to do this. Why? I just can't afford (or refuse to go into credit card debt) to buy several knives at once. Nor can I see these knives in person because Busse co. is not making their CA tour right now. So my approach is to buy a knife that seems to be what I am looking for. When the knife arrives I can decide what to do with it. If I want to keep it then that's that. But if I decide that it's just not what I want I will sell it or trade it in hopes of testing out another. This goes onand on until I have found the ones I want to keep. My point is that not all of us who buy only to quickly sell are doing so for a profit.

 

[Tyrkon Lawson]

CS: I forgot to mention... Try to buy from either the main Busse site or the CO. store to avoid the mark ups. I learned the hard way by missing out and then regretting it only to pay a higher price later on down the road. Good luck bro.

We need to get some get togethers so we can all share our INFI.

 

[Gravelface]

CS: I forgot to mention... Try to buy from either the main Busse site or the CO. store to avoid the mark ups. I learned the hard way by missing out and then regretting it only to pay a higher price later on down the road. Good luck bro.

We need to get some get togethers so we can all share our INFI.

Anyone want to go on a Swamp Tour....let me know! Busses and gators could be fun!

 

[CheetahSpeed]

Perhaps the "you tube" test vids will give you more raw data, not opinions, to help you make up your mind. I had to actually purchase my first Busse and use it to actually make up my mind about them. Now I am convinced of their high quality.

Hey Tyrkon,

Thanks for the suggestion!! :thumbup:

One piece of the puzzle. A knife makers mentality and/or attitude matters to me as well.

Thanks.

CS: My point is that not all of us who buy only to quickly sell are doing so for a profit.

Point taken! It seems to me that there is more of the profit happening than the other, that's all.

 

[CheetahSpeed]

I know this... If you DON'T like the knife, you should have NO problems selling it, even used. These are great knives. :thumbup: Jusy my $0.02, YMMV. Seriously, try a Busse before bashing us, cool?
Happy Hunting!
Jaxx

It is not the selling of a used knife that concerns me in the least. I value a makers attitude and the community attitude that surrounds a makers knife. While there is value in how a knife performs for the normal user blades, there is a value in the philosophy a maker bears that provides value to me in my collection.

 

[CheetahSpeed]

There's been so much bickering here lately that it's getting really old.

If you are near the VA Beach area, pm or email me. I'll let you borrow a Busse, beat the snot out of it and give it back to me. Then your opinions will be a little more interesting.

Please note, I'm not trying to be gruff with you. Just making an offer that will say more than anything I could type.

I am not trying to bicker or start any big issue as I stated in my preface.

Thanks for the generous offer. :thumbup: How about a raincheck for now?

 

[Jerry Busse]

A knife makers mentality and/or attitude matters to me as well.

Ruh Roh! My attitude is pretty good but my mentality is questioned on a daily basis!!!! . . . Nothing that a little scotch can't cure though!!! :thumbup:

Welcome to the forum Cheetah Speed!!!

Pour yourself a drink and stick around for a while. . . If you don't want to stick around then how about pouring me a drink???


Jerry

 

[CheetahSpeed]

That being said, I have seen more kindness and comraderie in this forum than any other place in my life, except maybe for my parish. If the above observations are all you have taken away from here then you have unfortunately missed those experiences I speak about, but don't lose heart. They will manifest themselves again. Take the recent sale of the Fire Wardens, many here got extras to pass on to those who missed out on them and they are selling them to the guys for the same cost they got them from the store for. That is looking out for folks in my book. You might say it isn't but if one of these guys snagged one for you, you'd be darn thankful. I have seen guys give knives away and loan them out for someoen to try if they were on the fence. I have personally experienced one marine lamenting the sale of his custom variant get his knife back out of the extreme kindness and generosity of another forum member who remains anonymous by his own request. In short, don't judge us too harshly yet. Hang around long enough and I think you will be greatly surprised.

Thanks for the time, effort and constructive feedback put into your response!! :thumbup:

It still remains to manifest itself in my view that an individual purchase a number of knives from the Busse Company Store and sell them to someone looking for one at ZERO (0) profit. I do see lots of sales that are at substantial markup due to some made up story about needing cash and the same individual posting wanted to buys and I'll take its. This appears to me to be more common among Busse Combat knives than other brands.

Then again, I am not able to hang out here 24 hours a day to know this for sure. In fact, my time is limited at best and thus do the best with what time I do have.