There's no real discussion to be had. The manufacturer subforums are here and operated by and because of the manufacturer. If they don't want a subforum and or won't moderate it you won't find one. Esee had one. It is still there in the archives. They asked it be closed. Still lots of good content there but all you can do is read and look.
ESEE has their own forum.
Used to be a blast 'til a troll came in and effed it all up.
A lot of good folks got banned or run off for talking back to the troll (including myself).
Who knows what it's like now?
You can find a link on their website.
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