Tops Puukko vs Esee RB3

Spey said:
Uhmmm ..., Enzo's are made in various countries and marketed out of Finland. Some from Italy also. It is my understanding the 75 was 'designed' in Finland.
Couple hints re: Birk 75; compare the carbon fiber laminated over G10 between Birk 75 and any of Spyderco carbon fiber over G10 laminated scales (say for example the Gayle Bradley released right after the Birk 75, current Gayle Bradley, or a Spyderco Sage-1).
Also consider the Gen-1 Birk 75 (released just prior to the Gen-1 Gayle Bradley) and the GB1 BOTH had liners that were proud of the handle scales.
Construction and design of standoffs, blade stop pin, evidences of EDM (Electrical Discharge Machining) wire-cutting, etc., including Fit-n-finish has Taiwan written all over it ...

My Sage-1 vs Birk 75 (both virtually identical carbon fiber laminated over G10)
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My Sage-1 (wearing a Ti-RIL lock & OEM carbon fiber laminated over G10), Birk 75 (carbon fiber laminated over G10), Birk 75 (Linen Micarta)
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Ok yup, I definitely see what you mean! By the way I didn't mean to sound offensive at all, sorry if my post portrayed that. Ya man, those sure do look to come from the same factory. They're also all one of my favorite models of all time. I remember when all the different Sage models were coming out and I still kick myself today for not grabbing one of each. I like how they did a different lock and scale combo on each that I saw. I did have a Sage 2 and it was one of my favorite knives of all time. That was my first Taichung Spyderco and is what made me a believer that Taiwan can make an amazing knife with fit and finish comparable or better than most US made knives.
 
LimpCroissant,
Nothing seemed offensive in any way ;-)
A lot of folks take what the industry parrots without any amount of critical thinking. My comments only to help others with an interest to see what they have perhaps misinterpreted. Hope something helpful to you and others.

RE: the Sage Line
This is such an excellent representation of what Spyderco does so well. The expression of a multitude of makers/designers designs in a production format and price-point, ALWAYS being cognizant of the maker and making sure the public knows the origin with a portion of the sales going to the designer. How many knife models express a significant functional component, like a lock design in this case, from more than one designer in the same model (and Spyderco used how many different lock designs in this model ...). No reason for an answer here, as just my way of challenging readers to research for themselves ;-)

I too wish I'd gotten one of each, but I have a habit of preferring a frame-lock and liner-lock, so merging the Sage-1 light weight scale with a Sage-2 Ti/RIL Lock Side was to me the cream of the crop of the line. Production tolerances allowing an end user to do this easily ..., well NOT a fan-boi ..., BUT, I do really appreciate fit-n-finish that allows mix-n-match not only between knives of same model, but also merging between two different versions of a model.
 
Spey said:
LimpCroissant,
Nothing seemed offensive in any way ;-)
A lot of folks take what the industry parrots without any amount of critical thinking. My comments only to help others with an interest to see what they have perhaps misinterpreted. Hope something helpful to you and others.

RE: the Sage Line
This is such an excellent representation of what Spyderco does so well. The expression of a multitude of makers/designers designs in a production format and price-point, ALWAYS being cognizant of the maker and making sure the public knows the origin with a portion of the sales going to the designer. How many knife models express a significant functional component, like a lock design in this case, from more than one designer in the same model (and Spyderco used how many different lock designs in this model ...). No reason for an answer here, as just my way of challenging readers to research for themselves ;-)

I too wish I'd gotten one of each, but I have a habit of preferring a frame-lock and liner-lock, so merging the Sage-1 light weight scale with a Sage-2 Ti/RIL Lock Side was to me the cream of the crop of the line. Production tolerances allowing an end user to do this easily ..., well NOT a fan-boi ..., BUT, I do really appreciate fit-n-finish that allows mix-n-match not only between knives of same model, but also merging between two different versions of a model.
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I completely agree! Yea that's right, now that you say it I remember Spyderco explaining that the Sage 2 was kind of paying homage to Reeve's Integral Lock. Yea the Sage models are just awesome. I'm a big fan of what Taichung's doing over there.
 
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