Torx screws question

stevekolt

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Sorry for the newbie question. I am going to use stainless torx screws to fasten some scales to a knife blank. Does the "collar/sleeve" need to be epoxied in place or is it just friction fit and then the scales are epoxied to the blade, and then the torx screws are screwed into the sleeve? Thanks for any help with this, I have used brass and mosaic pins before, but this is the first time using these...
 
This is a new tactical design I've been working on. The threaded standoffs (sleeves) are the precision locating mechanism for the scale placement. They have to go in when I'm epoxying the scales to ensure everything lines up properly, therefore, they get epoxied in place. I put the screws in later because there is a lot of cleanup when doing the epoxy and I don't want globs of epoxy sitting around the screw heads.

Bob

Untitled by Bob, on Flickr
 
Where is the logic of using screws when you epoxing scales?
This don't have sense for me.
 
Where is the logic of using screws when you epoxing scales?
This don't have sense for me.

What is the point of any of this? How many different knives does the world actually need? There are many different reasons for making a custom knife and I would say self expression is certainly among the best. I make my knives to look, feel and work the way I want them to. If this resonates with someone else, then I might be able to sell my knife; if it doesn't, then I may keep it or give it to family or friends. Logic does not need to be part of the equation.

That said, the knife I have shown above was designed in such a way that I could produce perfectly fit scales, contoured on the knife and then remove them so the blade could be coated and the scales would go back on and still fit exactly. The screws create compression which serves to strengthen the overall fastening system; it now has bond, shear and compression fastening.

Bob
 
It didn't make sense to me, either. I was getting ready to type a response similar to Kosa's, but I saw Bob had replied. Bob's answer told why he did it.

I would just have used the screws and made it a take down, but he wanted to epoxy it together. I can see a customer calling me and saying, "I have stripped three screws and broken a torx tip, but can't get them to budge. What gives?"
 
I use torx screws in scales all the time. Lets me locate the scales, finish the knife, remove the scales to hot-blue, etch damascus, etc.
Then replace the scales and epoxy solid.
But I just thread the tang.
In frame handles when I place stainless inserts in the frame, I just "stake" the insert into place.
See the little stake marks around the holes?


 
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